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Exactly!

I love the people who buy a kpe thinking theyre garunteed to be hitting over 1600 on air. All it takes is one google search to find the kingpin cooling forums, were you can find every spec of info about the kpe and how its main duty in life is to rip the faces off its competitors with the help of ln2.


The classy is more of a "consumer extreme" card imho. its not going break the bank to buy for long term air/water card, and gives you the bare bones features for benching cold ie: dmm support, full voltage control(evbot), 14+3 phase power. The kpe on the other hand was built from ground up for ln2.

Yup, sure is smile.gif


Now don't get me wrong, i love me some bling too lol. I bought two 980 Kingpins back when they released after my friend and i competed with his 780 classy and my 780 ti kingpin and saw a difference with TEC/peltier cooling; i was sold on the kingpin being technologically more advanced....however i KNEW i didn't "need" a 980 Kingpin as i was only running it in a standard water loop. I picked it up because it was a badass card, best of the best...and single slot *nerdgasm*.

The damn wait for classy blocks was so long though (only to find out they dont fit KPE 980 and having to wait even longer for the KPE block) and ended up selling them after only using one of my KPE 980s on an EK CSQ Copper Uniblock. I did manage to push 1,669mhz on the 980 KPE (non ti) with my xspc ex480 + ek xtc 420 + black ice gtx360 radiator setup though which is nice.


So you CAN get some extra potential over classified even with simple water sometimes (the classy 980s i messed around with tapped out at ~1,575mhz air and ~1,600mhz water), but not to the same degree as i achieved on the 780 TI Classified on cascade cooling previous to that (got an absolutely KILLER OC of 1,550mhz on it with iirc ~1.35v or so with the KP bios from Vince's site!)
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People tend to forget when the 980ti came out it only came with hynix memory as nvidia was only allowing hybix memory for support through the vendors.. the kingpin card was the only card that had Samsung memory and just right there it made a world of difference. In fact because of this card everybody started using the Samsung mem as it was a much more solid memory and improved scores over the hynix.. the earlier versions of the classified are all hynix.. the newer they switched.

But when it come down to it.. the kingpin is the bugatti of cards.. the classified is like a gallardo.. for ultimate performance on ln2.. one of the nicest things about the kp is how cool the vrm stays over the classified.. it's a crazy amount of difference.. plus the card really does look amazing.. great for modders too..
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I do hope that EK do an all copper (vs nickle copper) block for the 1080/1080 Ti KPE, to match the 980 Ti stock air cooler. That copper air cooler was/is just beautiful.

    
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Im still on the look out for a 980ti kpe for the right price, but everytime one pops up ive already gone ahead and bought something else. Was seriously hoping the one "kid"(he had to be a kid) on kingpin cooling who bought a card for 450$ would sell his on the forum. He had so much negative stuff to say about a card he had no idea how to use, and he knew better then everybody trying to help him...such a waste of a great card.
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Im still on the look out for a 980ti kpe for the right price, but everytime one pops up ive already gone ahead and bought something else. Was seriously hoping the one "kid"(he had to be a kid) on kingpin cooling who bought a card for 450$ would sell his on the forum. He had so much negative stuff to say about a card he had no idea how to use, and he knew better then everybody trying to help him...such a waste of a great card.

It's like mid life crisis supercar owners. Dude, go to a performance driving school and then take it to the track, use the machine as intended. Don't just buy the car and then complain about the stiff suspension and exhaust drone... only to sell it to John Doe enthusiast for half its value.
    
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Im still on the look out for a 980ti kpe for the right price, but everytime one pops up ive already gone ahead and bought something else. Was seriously hoping the one "kid"(he had to be a kid) on kingpin cooling who bought a card for 450$ would sell his on the forum. He had so much negative stuff to say about a card he had no idea how to use, and he knew better then everybody trying to help him...such a waste of a great card.

It's like mid life crisis supercar owners. Dude, go to a performance driving school and then take it to the track, use the machine as intended. Don't just buy the car and then complain about the stiff suspension and exhaust drone... only to sell it to John Doe enthusiast for half its value.
Exactly.

I bought a KPE 980 Ti a few months ago, because that is what I wanted.
I'd been wanting to get one since the 780 Ti version, finally did.

I like what it has, it's only going to be run on water, but that's fine with me.
EK did do a nice full-cover block for it this time.
Yeah, it's Maxwell, with all the same voltage/temperature limitations as the rest, but still a fun card.

But the current Classies, especially with Samsung ram, are very good cards, imo.
And a good value, bang for the buck, lol.
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So just got a 780 Classified off a buddy, would it be worth it to flash the Skyn3t bios (I'm assuming rev4 is best) over the L2N Bios with just air cooling?
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So just got a 780 Classified off a buddy, would it be worth it to flash the Skyn3t bios (I'm assuming rev4 is best) over the L2N Bios with just air cooling?

I'd say no unless you are aiming for bench only numbers.
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I do hope that EK do an all copper (vs nickle copper) block for the 1080/1080 Ti KPE, to match the 980 Ti stock air cooler. That copper air cooler was/is just beautiful.


Sadly they stopped doing that back in the Kepler days. Something about how most people were buying the plated blocks.
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So just got a 780 Classified off a buddy, would it be worth it to flash the Skyn3t bios (I'm assuming rev4 is best) over the L2N Bios with just air cooling?

It got me additional perks when running Folding@Home, but I also benched my old 780 Classified a decent amount too.
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People tend to forget when the 980ti came out it only came with hynix memory as nvidia was only allowing hybix memory for support through the vendors.. the kingpin card was the only card that had Samsung memory and just right there it made a world of difference. In fact because of this card everybody started using the Samsung mem as it was a much more solid memory and improved scores over the hynix.. the earlier versions of the classified are all hynix.. the newer they switched.

But when it come down to it.. the kingpin is the bugatti of cards.. the classified is like a gallardo.. for ultimate performance on ln2.. one of the nicest things about the kp is how cool the vrm stays over the classified.. it's a crazy amount of difference.. plus the card really does look amazing.. great for modders too..


AH! That's right! How could i forget the Samsung memory chips! God i remember the difference. iirc it was strong that compared his Classy 980s memory OC to the KPE with samsung and get a pretty absurd difference between the two. Overall i've found that the samsung memory just works better too, had tighter timings iirc, and tends to require much less power and voltage etc.. than Hynix.
Edited by DarkIdeals - 6/23/16 at 6:15am
 
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EVGA Supernova G2 1000 Caselabs SMA8 -XXL Window, Ventilated sides/t... Razer Ouroboros Norman Rockwell collection series print Mousepad 
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Mayhem's Pastel Ice White Coolant Coollaboratory Liquid Copper TIM XSPC EX480mm Radiator Black Ice GTX 360mm Radiator 
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EK XTC 420mm Radiator Swiftech MCP655-B 12v Pump EK RES X3 250 Reservoir Bitspower/EK 3/8" x 1/2" Compression fitting 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 8.1 ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q 27" 1440p 144hz G-Sync ASUS VG23AH 23.5" Passive 3d 1080p 60hz  Razer Blackwidow Chroma Tournament Edition 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA Supernova G2 1000 Caselabs SMA8 -XXL Window, Ventilated sides/t... Razer Ouroboros Norman Rockwell collection series print Mousepad 
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Sennheiser HD700 300ohm Open Back Headphones SupremeFX Hi-Fi 5.25" Bay AMP/DAC  
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