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Your monitor is not going to display that framerate so where is the advantage?

You do realize a monitor refresh is not a single frame?
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Originally Posted by VolsAndJezuz View Post

You do realize a monitor refresh is not a single frame?

" The refresh rate (most commonly the "vertical refresh rate", "vertical scan rate" for cathode ray tubes) is the number of times in a second that a display hardware updates its buffer. " Wikipedia.


You can generate thousands of fps but your monitor cannot read all of them.
p.s not talking about server's tickrate , another issue.
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You can generate thousands of fps but your monitor cannot read all of them.

Then please explain the phenomenon of screen tearing to me. And why vertical synchronization exists.
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Then please explain the phenomenon of screen tearing to me. And why vertical synchronization exists.

Ok but i'm sure you perfectly know what they are.

Again wikipedia:

" Screen tearing is a visual artifact in video display where a display device shows information from multiple frames in a single screen draw". V-sync makes 1 frame in a single screen draw: 60 fps on a 60hz monitor, 120 fps on a 120hz monitor...

Monitor does not display 2 or more frames in the same time in screen tearing, it reads 2 or more frames and produces artifacts.

p.s In my previous message i wrote " read" instead of " display". I think you could understand what i meant.
Edited by ottoore - 7/21/16 at 2:28am
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That sentence you quote literally says that the "display device shows information from multiple frames in a single screen draw." Then you go on to contradict that one sentence later without any reasoning or sources. It's clear to me at this point that you are either trolling, or just have made your mind up about something of which you are quite uninformed. Either way, I'm checking out of this argument.
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Originally Posted by VolsAndJezuz View Post

That sentence you quote literally says that the "display device shows information from multiple frames in a single screen draw." Then you go on to contradict that one sentence later without any reasoning or sources. It's clear to me at this point that you are either trolling, or just have made your mind up about something of which you are quite uninformed. Either way, I'm checking out of this argument.

If it can't show 2 or more frames the result is an artifact generated by 2 or more frames, this is what we call "screen tearing". That's what " shows info from multiple frames" means.
No contradiction at all.
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so I've got my 980 ti cIassy that I've started trying to overclock today. I'm currently in the stock bios on air. I seem to have topped out at ~1468MHz (it settles on this clock during 3dmark firestrike after jumping to 1477). I'm little dissapointed. Wondering if anybody has any tips and tricks.

I've poked around the thread and what I'm gathering is that maxwell doesn't scale well with voltage and may in some cases require undervolting to improve clocks. I have the classified voltage tool. The voltage tool isn't card specific correct (I installed it when I had my 780classy, it seems to recognize that I have a 980ti)? When I tried lowering the voltage Afterburner wasn't reporting any changes.

Lastly, I should say I do plan on slapping my ek block on this. Has anybody noticed improvements in overclocking with better control over temps? If so, what might I be looking at for an improvement in core clockspeed?
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so I've got my 980 ti cIassy that I've started trying to overclock today. I'm currently in the stock bios on air. I seem to have topped out at ~1468MHz (it settles on this clock during 3dmark firestrike after jumping to 1477). I'm little dissapointed. Wondering if anybody has any tips and tricks.

I'm running 2x Classy's and found that their optimum OC range was actually with their default voltage of around 1.2v.

Anything higher did not gain me anything as far as clock speeds were concerned and in fact made them more difficult to hold stability.

Note that my cards are watercooled with EK blocks.

I can push my cards individually to around 1550 core but in SLI I need to drop them back to 1500 for 100% stability in heavy games.

Note that my memory was more open to overclocking and can easily run +700MHz on the memory (both cards) in games and be fully stable. I can even push the memory up +800MHz in benchmarks without issue as well. Note my EVGA Classifieds were of the later variants which came out with Samsung memory IC's.

So watercooling is not much of advantage except for keeping the temps at under 35C when under heavy loads and of course not requiring any GPU fans.



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I'm running 2x Classy's and found that their optimum OC range was actually with their default voltage of around 1.2v.

Anything higher did not gain me anything as far as clock speeds were concerned and in fact made them more difficult to hold stability.

Note that my cards are watercooled with EK blocks.

I can push my cards individually to around 1550 core but in SLI I need to drop them back to 1500 for 100% stability in heavy games.

Note that my memory was more open to overclocking and can easily run +700MHz on the memory (both cards) in games and be fully stable. I can even push the memory up +800MHz in benchmarks without issue as well. Note my EVGA Classifieds were of the later variants which came out with Samsung memory IC's.

So watercooling is not much of advantage except for keeping the temps at under 35C when under heavy loads and of course not requiring any GPU fans.

So your core and memory oc's didn't increase at all moving from air to water cooling? Yeah I also have the Samsung memory but I wasn't able to get past like +250MHz offset before it started crashing. Although I didn't try ocing the memory by itself.

I guess I understood that voltage doesn't really do much for the 980ti, but I was more curious how much temps mattered. I found that when I cranked the fans to 100% and my temps stayed below 70C, i could get another 10-20MHz while doing benchmarks. Wondering if that is something I can expect to see when I move to watercooling where the temps will be much lower?

Kinda a bummer if not. What's interesting is that while I couldn't break ~1470MHz on the core consistently with this card for benchmarks, I just got done with a 2-3 hour gaming session (Tomb Raider 2013) where the core was at ~1450MHz without any issues.
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So your core and memory oc's didn't increase at all moving from air to water cooling? Yeah I also have the Samsung memory but I wasn't able to get past like +250MHz offset before it started crashing. Although I didn't try ocing the memory by itself.

I guess I understood that voltage doesn't really do much for the 980ti, but I was more curious how much temps mattered. I found that when I cranked the fans to 100% and my temps stayed below 70C, i could get another 10-20MHz while doing benchmarks. Wondering if that is something I can expect to see when I move to watercooling where the temps will be much lower?

Kinda a bummer if not. What's interesting is that while I couldn't break ~1470MHz on the core consistently with this card for benchmarks, I just got done with a 2-3 hour gaming session (Tomb Raider 2013) where the core was at ~1450MHz without any issues.


watercooling will get you better clocks. maxwell likes to be cold more then it likes added voltage. how much youll gain from getting colder will depend on the card itself but, yes youll see some kind of gain going to water.
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