Originally Posted by Masta Squidge
The problem with this whole debate is that people say "hurr durr better graphics on PC"... Well, if you have a fixed budget, your PC is going to have significantly worse graphics than your console for the same price.
By a massive margin.
I'm afraid this statement is incorrect. At the same resolution PC built for about the same bottom-of-the-barrel price of ~250 eur as current gen consoles has, actually, better graphical quality, like, for example few levels of AA or fps higher than 30. Let me provide an example - I built a internet box for a family member last year from my upgrade leftovers of which key component, as far as gaming goes was a AMD 4870 gfx card. As surprising as it might sound it does, actually, play pretty damn decently at 1280x1024 resolution (as opposed at 1280x720 prevalent in consoles currently) - things, like, for example, Unreal 3 or Tribes:Ascend (also on unreal engine) or TF2 (Source engine).
AMD Sempron 140, unlocked to dualcore, modest OC (~25 EUR), Some cheapest Mobo for that with UCC [760 series chipset) ~40 EUR, 8 GB of RAM, 640 HB HDD, 450W PSU, Case and ofc, AMD 4870 GFX card as the most expensive component which I would value at approx 100 EUR. This is windows Vista btw so the scores are capped at 5.9. And yes, that CPU bottlenecks, but not enough to drag that card under 30 fps and CPU bottleneck is not that relevant for some of the effects, like, for example, doing AA.
As far as upcoming gen consoles go with, lets say, average price at ~450 EUR you can still match their performance for this price and this is at their launch
. The gap will tear wider over some few next years. Something on the lines of
AMD 7870, some cheapish AMD 3 or 4 core with little OC or some dualcore from Intel and rest of the components. It is possible in here with 20% VAT in prices so should be possible to pull off on the US side as well probably with prices being slightly cheaper over there usually.
Optimizations can go some good way but they are not some black magic capable of doing miracles.