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1) is HIDevolution a trustable site?

2) What is the current battery life of the Clevo w230st? How much would having a 37 Wh processor vs a 47 Wh processor increase the battery life?

3) Is there a significant difference between a random read/write speed of 100k/90k vs 80k/80k? I would be mainly gaming and doing schoolwork.

4) Does windows 8 have considerably better battery life than windows 7?

5) Since I would be self-installing an OS, how would I go about installing from a flash drive since there is no ODD on the clevo?

6) Would this be a suitable laptop for college? I'd be carrying this around frequently.
Edited by dizfunction - 7/21/13 at 8:08pm
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1) is HIDevolution a trustable site?

2) What is the current battery life of the Clevo w230st? How much would having a 37 Wh processor vs a 47 Wh processor increase the battery life?

3) Is there a significant difference between a random read/write speed of 100k/90k vs 80k/80k? I would be mainly gaming and doing schoolwork.

4) Does windows 8 have considerably better battery life than windows 7?

5) Since I would be self-installing an OS, how would I go about installing from a flash drive since there is no ODD on the clevo?

6) Would this be a suitable laptop for college? I'd be carrying this around frequently.

first, only bump every 24 hours...


1. I would recommend ordering the sager through xoticPC. I am not familiar with HIDevolution, I know 3-4 people who ordered sagers from xotic and were very happy with the customer service

2. Lower processor power requirements will increase battery life I would think, probably not a huge amount in the case of your comparison.

3. No answer from me, I'm not a pro on the specs of SSDs. You probably will not notice the differences in day to day use though.

4. No comment

5. You can download legit versions of windows from digital river, and microsoft supplies a ISO to USB tool. You would then plug the USB port into a non usb 3.0 (at least on the win 7 and older notebooks) and boot from USB, from there it is the same as installing via CD only faster. Or you can add an external USB drive to your order (its an option on xotic) and install via the usb cd drive.

6. I think so, small, with good power, screen size is decent, and the weight isnt crazy. Will this be your only PC?
     
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first, only bump every 24 hours...


1. I would recommend ordering the sager through xoticPC. I am not familiar with HIDevolution, I know 3-4 people who ordered sagers from xotic and were very happy with the customer service

2. Lower processor power requirements will increase battery life I would think, probably not a huge amount in the case of your comparison.

3. No answer from me, I'm not a pro on the specs of SSDs. You probably will not notice the differences in day to day use though.

4. No comment

5. You can download legit versions of windows from digital river, and microsoft supplies a ISO to USB tool. You would then plug the USB port into a non usb 3.0 (at least on the win 7 and older notebooks) and boot from USB, from there it is the same as installing via CD only faster. Or you can add an external USB drive to your order (its an option on xotic) and install via the usb cd drive.

6. I think so, small, with good power, screen size is decent, and the weight isnt crazy. Will this be your only PC?

Sorry >.> I'm new to the forums tongue.gif
I'll keep that in mind!

Also, to your question, yes, this would be my only PC. I was hoping to get good battery with casual use (like the MSI GE40 which lasted 8+ hours according to a couple of reviews i read o.o) but I'm guessing that clevo's having some problems atm so battery life isn't very good.

Worst case scenario, if I don't see the battery life improving I'll take a hit on quality build and screen and go with the MSI GE40.
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Where have you seen that the clevos are having issues? could it be that the battery in the clevo is smaller than in the MSI, and that can make up the difference? or is it something else. I haven't really looked into this notebook, Id love one, but Its not really needed for my usage at the moment.
     
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Where have you seen that the clevos are having issues? could it be that the battery in the clevo is smaller than in the MSI, and that can make up the difference? or is it something else. I haven't really looked into this notebook, Id love one, but Its not really needed for my usage at the moment.

the Wh of the clevo is 62 and the Wh of the msi is 65, shown here, but that's not a significant enough difference to warrant a 4-5 hour battery life difference.

However, according to this thread the battery life is only lasting 3 hours and 23 minutes on web surfing while refreshing the page every 5 minutes, which is WAY lower amount than the MSI GE40's 8 hours and 23 minutes (can't find the link for this atm). It was also mentioned on the clevo thread that battery life improved after a firmware update. There is also a modded bios being created that should improve battery life a little bit. The only reason I can think of for such a low battery life is the IPS display.

EDIT: found the review http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/msi-ge40-2oc-009us%20.aspx
this is also confirmed by the owner's lounge on some site that i do not recall (using integrated graphics ofc)

I plan on going mSATA if i go msi ge40, so my battery life should be slightly better than that.
Edited by dizfunction - 7/22/13 at 10:13am
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I would avoid the MSI laptop like the plague. If power is something you must have then maybe consider an extra battery? I believe even HIDevolution supplies that as well.

Try looking around the internet to see some review of the website if needed
    
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I would avoid the MSI laptop like the plague. If power is something you must have then maybe consider an extra battery? I believe even HIDevolution supplies that as well.

Try looking around the internet to see some review of the website if needed

I found a thread on another site where people who own/are interested in the laptop post, and I noticed 2 main problems:

1) The battery life is absurdly low; the optimus tech may not be very good, the IPS screen may be a reason behind this too, but another thing I think is that no one tried it with the 4702MQ low voltage processor.

2) It gets hot while gaming; this was fixed by lowering the voltage on the processor (4700) a little.

Another issue is that on some games the GPU is throttling itself at high speeds, and overclocking the GPU solves that problem.
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If your referring to the notebook review then it was a 4800mq, if heat is a concern then I would consider XoticPC do the copper modification or do that part yourself, I have done it myself and yielded nice results

Being the 1st round draft can have its perks, but often your the beta tester to see what the firmware update needs to focus on lol,which is why I wait a couple months after a release before purchasing. It could also be the monitor as well as his is from a different supplier thus a different model panel altogether
    
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If your referring to the notebook review then it was a 4800mq, if heat is a concern then I would consider XoticPC do the copper modification or do that part yourself, I have done it myself and yielded nice results

Being the 1st round draft can have its perks, but often your the beta tester to see what the firmware update needs to focus on lol,which is why I wait a couple months after a release before purchasing. It could also be the monitor as well as his is from a different supplier thus a different model panel altogether

Hmm...these are all very valid points. Out of curiosity though, why would you say to stay away from MSI at all costs? I've read plenty of reviews where their products worked great.
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