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Dell U2713HM vs U2713H

post #1 of 13
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I got a 2713H as a free replacement for my 2713hm. I use the monitor for mostly movies, sometimes games.

I've read that even though the 2713h is more expensive, the 2713hm is better for watching videos.

Any thoughts?
post #2 of 13
If you like it more then whatever, but in reality the U2713HM is much better since the U2713H ghosts in movies and unless you use the U2713H's sRGB mode which can have an unfix-able green tint the colors will be over-saturated and not look the way the artists intended them to.
post #3 of 13
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Yes, them more I look at my 2713H the more I like it's anti-glare coating and the more I hate it's colors. They're way to saturated.

How do I enable sRGB mode?
post #4 of 13
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What do you guys make of this professional review?

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/60474-dell-ultrasharp-u2713h-27-ah-ips-monitor-review-7.html

He seems to just be not speaking the truth. I don't understand.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
thanks for the replies.

I compared the 2713HM and 2713H for about an hour last night with duplicate displays. I was watching a 7GB rip of a Game of Thrones episode (which pretty much looks amazing on anything you view it through).

I kept going back and forth.

The 2713HM looks great, but the version I have has cross-hatching. This is avoidable however, with an RMA. Colors are just the right amount of punch and things don't look fake.

The 2713H is difficult to rate. On default settings reds are too saturated. Faces especially. I then switched the sGRB which has a faded, less vibrant look than the 2713HM. I think this is because the HM has very slight over-saturated colors---which honestly are great...I think sGRB fails to capture a little of the vibrancy we get with our eyes, so the HM makes up for this a bit (while distorting things slightly). So, I then tried out the aGRB. I liked the colors, and I could deal with it. However, there was a green tint on all blacks. Every leather armor I saw with Game of Thrones looked a brownish green.

I decided to reject the 2713H replacement---even though it's worth more---and ask for a 2713hm replacement. God I hope I get one without crosshatching. If not, I'm going with the ASUS.
post #6 of 13
Yup the U2713HM's native colour gamut extends slightly beyond sRGB without being wide gamut. The sRGB emulation mode on the U2713H knocks the colour gamut down to sRGB quite tightly which will look a bit muted in comparison.
post #7 of 13
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Ya, I think this works in HM's favor.

Taken to the extreme this is the H.

Less is more.
post #8 of 13
I don't think the Hardware Canuck's reviewer was aware of the U2713H's intended purposes and that games & movies are created for the sRGB/REC 709 color space, so statements like "This is the way games are meant to be played” & "Currently, there isn’t a competitor that can come close to matching this UltraSharp’s capabilities" regarding the U2713H's color performance are completely subjective as well as misleading.
post #9 of 13
In general, if you don't need a wide gamut display then you really should be using a normal gamut display. They tend to have issues like those MenacingTuba explained; the sRGB mode is an emulation mode that doesn't have the same settings as the full custom modes.

The U2713HM is also technically wide gamut, but it is not 100% adobe RGB (it has about 84% coverage). The sRGB mode on the u2713HM is also technically an emulation mode that artificially limits the color space of the monitor (the sRGB mode covers under 80% of the Adobe RGB color space, but I forget what the actual measurement I got was; I think it was 77% or so). However, there aren't any color or tint issues with the u2713HM in sRGB mode.
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post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Mjolnir125 View Post

In general, if you don't need a wide gamut display then you really should be using a normal gamut display. They tend to have issues like those MenacingTuba explained; the sRGB mode is an emulation mode that doesn't have the same settings as the full custom modes.

The U2713HM is also technically wide gamut, but it is not 100% adobe RGB (it has about 84% coverage). The sRGB mode on the u2713HM is also technically an emulation mode that artificially limits the color space of the monitor (the sRGB mode covers under 80% of the Adobe RGB color space, but I forget what the actual measurement I got was; I think it was 77% or so). However, there aren't any color or tint issues with the u2713HM in sRGB mode.

Thanks for the reply.

Maybe I'm not following, but just to be clear I was not talking about HM's sRGB emulation. The native ("standard") mode over saturates things just ever so slightly so you end up with great accuracy and more punchy colors.
    
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