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If you will plan to add a Sata III controller be careful with your expectations, with mine (Asus U3S6 on a P5Q3) I got much faster reading speeds but surprisingly slower writing speeds.

Actually, my suggestion would be not to buy one. The only ones worth buying are in the region of $300-400 for 4 ports and that's enough for a Core i5-4670K + budget Z87 motherboard.
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Cool, thanks for that. So I guess on my board, I can expect around 250mb/s read and write (sequential) on the 840 SSD. Will random read/write be impacted much?

In addition, with the WD Blue (SATA3) I can expect around 150mb/s seq read/write, right? Thanks heaps for your help.

Yup, but sequential performance does not matter that much.... 90% of disk activity for every day use is random.

The benefit of SSDs is going from 1MB/s random to 50-120MB/s random.

While going from 150MB/s sequential to 250MB/s or 400MB/s sequential is cool for benchmarks, it does not matter nearly as much as random.
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You should switch back to AHCI anyway it's a more efficient storage protocol.
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If you will plan to add a Sata III controller be careful with your expectations, with mine (Asus U3S6 on a P5Q3) I got much faster reading speeds but surprisingly slower writing speeds.

Yea that controller is poop it has a Marvell 9123 controller wired to PCIe 2.0 x1 (the card itself is markedted as x4 but the controller electrically support x1 only + they use a PLX), it's a variant of the 9128 I have on my motherboard which is wired to x2 and there's the 9182 which is a real x4 but only the X58A-OC had it iirc. Anyways many P55/X58 owners bought the U3S6 but it doesn't provide really better bandwidth over a good SATA2 controller like Intel ICH10 IOH.

You'd need a true PCIe x4 controller to have great SATA3 speeds, but as DuckieHo pointed out sequentials don't matter for everyday uses that's why it's not really worth going from SATA2 to true SATA3 (some upgraded to SB just for that back in the days).
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Sandforce SATAIII on an AMD SATAII board



Well worth it,even without AHCI which would boost sequential scores.
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If you will plan to add a Sata III controller be careful with your expectations, with mine (Asus U3S6 on a P5Q3) I got much faster reading speeds but surprisingly slower writing speeds.


Appreciate the advice -- I don't have any plans for buying a SATA3 controller.

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Yup, but sequential performance does not matter that much.... 90% of disk activity for every day use is random.

The benefit of SSDs is going from 1MB/s random to 50-120MB/s random.

Ok, thanks for that. So on the WD Blue HDD, the random speeds will be ~1MB/s?

I was well aware that the advantages of SATA3 would be somewhat minimal; my concern was regarding the specific controllers on my own motherboard which many people had trouble with (as evident in a Google search). But I'm now aware that that problem only exists with 3rd-party Marvell SATA3 controllers (which I don't have).

So looks like I'll be placing an order for the 840 250gb + a WD10EZEX 1TB HDD... (Unless someone suggests a better SSD + HDD combo in the same price range). Thanks everyone for their help!
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So looks like I'll be placing an order for the 840 250gb + a WD10EZEX 1TB HDD... (Unless someone suggests a better SSD + HDD combo in the same price range). Thanks everyone for their help!

Not unless you're willing to wait for prices on the Samsung 840 EVO to stabilize.
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But I'm now aware that that problem only exists with 3rd-party Marvell SATA3 controllers (which I don't have).

As I said in my previous post, it's not a "Marvell" issue. It just a consequence of the electrical design of their first-gen low-end S3 controllers plus their firmware has matured since the early days.
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The WD Blue will max out around 200MBs, and around 175 avg.
   
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