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ok so how do I talk the family into getting upgrades... I highly doubt they're going to be okay with me custom building a pc because they found the price they paid for this pc when it was brand new to be extraordinary. The other day they were saying it cost close to an excess of 2 grand when in reality it did not. It cost around 1 grand. And now it cost around 500 dollars. I did not tell them that because I did not want to be rude. But they seem to think because they paid such an inflated price that it will super excel at everything it was made for. Which it does not has never. I tried to talk them into upgrades about half a year ago and I was quickly thrown an array of comments with the general idea of "ingrate". YET AGAIN I was and am pretty young. I only have about 1 grand to 800 dollars saved up. I am a senior. They also throw the argument that if it isn't good why did I not buy it myself. You get the pattern here? If I were ever allowed to get upgrades I had planned on getting a new power supply, a 670, and a i5. And if I needed which I probably would a new MOBO. That would total out to around 350-500 dollars. They again jump the gun and assume the upgrades im looking for would cost an excess of another 1000 dollars.
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Talking to the folks to get them to sponsor some upgrades is always a tough part. Afterall, its their hard earned money at stake. I felt the pinch when I first custom built my first rig. It was expensive but not as expensive and/or slow as those prebuilt OEM ones no doubt.

Back to topic: So lets say you're considering an Intel i5 right? You would definately need a new mobo as your phenom ii x6 is an AMD chip so the sockets on the mobo are different altogether. Heres a short list of what I see would be a good upgrade for you within your budget (feel free to change specific parts should you desire):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-K ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($122.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.94 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($169.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $780.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-23 00:28 EDT-0400)
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post #13 of 16
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If I can help it I would attempt to move away from the radeon and amd stuff in the future. its not that I don't like amd stuff its just that one game I sink a considerable deal of time into is optimized strictly for Nvidia and intel(planetside 2). If that changes in the next 5 months I will probably stick with an amd rig. As it certainly is nicer to the wallet and amd stuff isn't awful. I have had an awful time with my pc as far as gaming goes. Literally every modern game I've played I've had to tweak the settings just to be able to run it smoothly. I hate that. It totally defeats the purpose of having a gaming p.c if im just going to end up putting things below or on par with current gen consoles. I absolutely love gaming. And I have the money to upgrade. The only thing stopping me are parents. The money I would be using would not be from them. I work and have saved some money. I appreciate the recommendations. Another side note while Im here I tried to install the latest drivers for my amd stuff and I got BSoD a few times. I did a restore and tried to start up a free game and got BSoD. Before I did the restore my layout was in 32 bit and grainy. Suggestions?
[Update] the problem is in a questionable state.. Not sure ..
Edited by JakFudo - 7/22/13 at 9:52pm
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How about this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-K ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($122.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.94 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $765.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-23 00:52 EDT-0400)

I know your sediments for choosing the intel+nvidia combo. You can see from my sig that i'm using an all AMD rig. I can honestly tell you I have had no issues with my system. The only time AMD has given me driver issues is when I tried to crossfire my old pair of 6950s. They rocked for a good whole year before the drivers did not work properly for Battlefield 3 so I gave up on multi-gpu options and stuck to a powerful single GPU solution.

Your 5450(I think) is pretty old, and in terms of spec wise its a very low end card. If you know how AMD grades their GPU tiers, any X4X0 cards where X is the series and model numbers, is considered entry level. I wouldn't expect to get anything more than 10FPS especially on PS2. I can run PS2 at ultra settings at anywhere between 100 to 40FPS depending if im in a biodome or in a intensive firefight or just idling at the warpgate. Afterall, PS2 is poorly optimized for multi-threads so my FX8350 can't be utilized to its fullest. Instead, PS2 is very reliant on powerful single core functions, which no doubt the FX8350 lacks in comparison to an i5 4670k/3570k.

For your current driver issues, try reverting them back to the older drivers. The newer drivers might not be friendly on your old 5450 so thats why I'm presuming that your BSODs are from there.
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I get around 35-50 in isolated or lowly populated areas in Ps2. I get 100-120 when drop podding. And 40-70 when flying. This us after extensive user option editing, msi after burner, and razer game booster. Its the dip during fights (15-30) that kill me. My parents dont see why its so important to me to get upgrades. They think im just looking for fidelity when its more about the performance. Which right now sucks. I appreciate the help
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PS2 in general is just a very heavy CPU reliant title. I have played around with my old 6950 compared to my 7970. Without looking at frame numbers, both felt right about the same. The main difference was felt when I switched my old Phenom II x6 1090T to the FX8350, where the latter felt smoother and it indeed managed a gain in FPS.
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