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Long story short, I have one messed up RMA transaction. Right now I have 2gb (2x1gb) of xms2 pc6400 (ddr800) at 5-5-5-12 and 2gb (2x1gb) of xms2 pc6400 (ddr800) at 4-4-4-12. The only problem is that my motherboard does not support EPP so that second 2 sticks of ram is running at 6-6-6-18 instead of 4-4-4-12. If I were to use all 4gb of RAM, but keep the 5-5-5-12 RAM in my primary slots and the 6-6-6-18 RAM in my secondary ones, would I notice much of a difference because of those screwed up timings?

Also, I would like to know if the p5b deluxe supports EPP RAM.
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Okay, now I was able to leave a message with the manager there. Hopefully I will get a call tomorrow. Do you guys know anything about my original question?
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post #3 of 7
The difference in speed because of the timings is negligible. 1-4% performance loss in memory benchmarks.
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post #4 of 7
The memory controller has to work far harder with 4 slots filled and even harder with 4 X 1024 filled. You are mixing different drams and doing it with four slots and 4GB.

Be happy you can even use 4GB as there are a fair percentage that can not due to hardware issues.

EPP is not supported on Intel chipset based boards.
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The performance question really depends on what you're doing. Nearly no modern apps will take advantage of the 4 gigs - so unless you're doing something in real time (encoding audio/video) or working with uncompressed audio/vidoe you're taking a performance hit for the reason ropey stated. If you are going to be using it tho - the timings won't make much of a difference.

IMO pretty much the only thing timings are good for are benchies - there really aren't a whole lot of real-world situations where timings matter
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If it does work properly with all four slots filled, the mem controller will loosen the tight timings so both run the same
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Originally Posted by Ropey View Post
EPP is not supported on Intel chipset based boards.

They should really write that on the box, or at least in the manual. I scoured the packing and there was no mention of this anywhere. The only place I found it was in a tiny footnot on the Asus website in the directory for my mobo. If I have nothing to do tomorrow, I might just call and ***** at them a bit.
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