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post #1 of 8
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Hi,
Just to set the bar, I'm green! :-D

I have just got me a new rig, and want to get the most out of it so I get the best experience possible in FSX.
I have a i5-4670k.

My previously experience with overclocking is limited. Have only been using the built in tuning in the Asus motherboards. My previously one, P5W DH Deluxe, and the one I have now, Z87-Pro.
On my last motherboard, the built in tuning worked with no problem, but with the current Z87, my computer crashes after using the built in '4-way optimization'. After the optimization, the speed is set to 4.2GHz, and resulting in BSOD after a while.
If I then reduce the multiplayer so the speed is reduced to 3.8GHz, everything is stable.

My big question before I start anything; do you think that there is any use to try anything manually?
Don't want to invest in a new cpu cooler(only have the stock cooler now) if it look like I have got a crappy CPU.
For the times I have had the CPU @ 4.2, the temp have never been over 70 degrees, so it can't be because of the heat I
get the BSOD/crash?

Any thoughts? smile.gif
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post #2 of 8
FYI, simply because the die temp isn't over the Tmax, doesn't mean temperature isn't your problem. When you pump more voltage and higher frequency through the transistors, they become more sensitive to heat.

In general, "auto-OC" sucks. If you want a strong OC, you have to do it manually. In order to achieve those auto-OCs, mobos have a tendency to push the voltage ridiculously high, which shortens the life of a processor considerably.
post #3 of 8
On some chips you may not be able to run even 4.3 using auto OC. My rig instant locks whenever i put 4.3 auto OC on it. I need shorten the jumper pins to restore everything back to default.
Yet, iam stable at 4.5 and can boot into windows at 4.9 on air using manual settings.
post #4 of 8
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Thanx for the input guys. Then I guess I should think about ordering me a new cooler.

Have read online that the stock cooler ain't that bad, and since I haven't got so high temperatures this far, I'm thinking of just trying a bit tweeking with the stock cooler. smile.gif
Or is that a absolutely no-go?

As a newbie, you have anything I should be aware off? Any rookie mistakes that is common?
Max temperature, volts etc for the i5-4670k? smile.gif
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post #5 of 8
do you use Ai suite for temps? because these are lower, use something like Realtemp

start doing some research into haswell overclocking, there is a nice guide on this forums but its for gigabyte, but still good for the basics
The auto-oc of AI Suite isnt that good, on my 4770k it goes up to 4.6ghz but instant bsod

The stock cooler isnt good for overclocking, it does the job for stock thumb.gif
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post #6 of 8
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Yes, it is primarily the Ai Suite I have been using for temps and the 4-way optimizer.

Have started to read several guides about overclocking Haswell, but for a newbie, it's just so god damn many new abbreviations and names! smile.gif

I'm considering to invest in a H100i, but I don't know if it will fit in my Fractal r3. Pretty sure it is not gonna fit on the back, but trying to check out if it will go on the top. smile.gif
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post #7 of 8
You should download realtemp smile.gif accurate temps

I had the same when I started overclocking my Haswell, but reading the gigabyte guide made a lot clear for me smile.gif
As for the names, I just looked up other topics on this forum about it, found a lot and was able to get a stable 4,5ghz

I dont think the H100i fits but I found a topic on this forum
http://www.overclock.net/t/1344547/h100i-fractal-define-r3
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post #8 of 8
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Looks that you are right about that one. Not going to start modifying anything to get it to work.. tongue.gif

Have now ordered me a H80i, so hopefully that will do the trick and hold my cpu temp low. Will at least download realtemp to get some more correct temperature readings.

Is this the guide to where thinking of?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1401976/the-gigabyte-z87-haswell-overclocking-oc-guide
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