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I need a new MB, and after some research i came up with these two.
I will be using a i5 4670 k , 8 gb @1600 corsair , HD 7950, SSD 840 pro 128 gb, Case is a HAF XM. PSU 700 W Seasonic
Now... from what people say ASUS has amazing fan control, but i see it has only 8+2 phases , the ud5h having 16!? and more fan headers.
Also the UD5H has a legacy PCI-E on witch i can use my older sound card witch is a creative x-fi fatality gamer pro extreme something etc with the front panel witch i never use biggrin.gif. Now i don't mind not using this sound card if the on-board audio of the Asus is good, like they say it is.
I will OC my components using either of these 2 mobos.
So..what would you buy ? and why ? (other explained recommendations are more then welcomed)
    
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Theres really nothing between them I think in terms of capability. Probably why you are having a little trouble deciding between them. Both are likely to reach the safe working limits of your CPU in overclocking. Its less the mobo and more the individual CPU that seems to dictate OC on Haswell CPUs

One feature from Asus I like is their 4 way optimisation and AISuite III software. I wouldnt worry about it being 8 phase. Asus has very strong power circuitry and its not likely to hold you back.

I like the UD5 colour scheme better, more fan headers are useful and it has plenty Sata ports. Theire is a Thunderbolt version coming soon I think if you think you might need a lot of bandwidth to an external device at some stage.

If it was me I would go with the Hero. Its about $20 cheaper on newegg. You will be happy with either though.
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There is one feature on the UD5 that might make a meaningful difference if you decided not to use your discrete sound card. It has a headphone amp built in.
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Hero also has an amp IIRC.

Just pick whichever you like. As said Gigabyte has stronger VRM, but Asus's shouldn't hold you back in any way. They also usually overclock RAM better.
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The Gigabyte has a VRM on par with the ASUS board once you discount the fact that the Gigabyte board uses doublers to get 16 phases (there can only be 8 "true phases" on an IR3563B PWM controller).

Component quality is the same once you factor in the driver mosfets for the ASUS' 40A NexFETS: Gigabyte uses a integrated driver+high+low side (IR3553) which can take 40A. They both have 10K Japanese Caps, 60A chokes. The ASUS uses the ASP1251 PWM controller instead of IR3563B.

The ASUS has superior fan control in terms of headers only to the UD3H and UD4H. The Z87X-UD5H has 4 fan headers that are independently controlled. What sets ASUS apart is BIOS min/max fan speeds , which doesn't matter that much unless you run Hackintosh or Linux build. Gigabyte fan control consists of "silent", "manual" with a retarded PWM value / °C, and "disabled" (full speed).

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Z77X-UD5H (and all their Z77X boards) had all chassis fan headers linked together (absolutely dumb) so that's why the Gigabyte has terrible fan control thing gets repeated over and over.

IMO the ASUS Hero is the board to buy if you don't need the extra features of the UD5H (such as Dual LAN, 2 extra SATA3, IEEE1394 Firewire, more USB 3.0 ports) and care about a few dB SNR on your audio. It's about $30 cheaper.

GIgabyte's UD5H has ALC898 , ASUS has ALC1150 with EMI shielding (see difference http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2200/15/) .

The only issue I see with the ASUS board is that if anything goes wrong , ASUS RMA is absolutely horrific by all accounts on the forums these days.

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Quote:
so i got my hands on some information pertaining to the differences between the ALC1150 and the ALC898 and they are actually pretty equal.
These are the differences:

ALC1150:
Back Panel headphone out: 115db, however this line out requires a differential
All its other rear channels are 98dB
Front headphone is 110dB

ALC898:
All channels are 110dB includng all rear channels and front headphone and rear headphone
Same cost as the ALC1150
http://www.overclock.net/t/1398739/is-realteks-alc-1150-noticeably-better-than-the-alc-898-chip/30#post_20270447
Edited by AlphaC - 7/23/13 at 8:05pm
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The Gigabyte has a VRM on par with the ASUS board once you discount the fact that the Gigabyte board uses doublers to get 16 phases (there can only be 8 "true phases" on an IR3563B PWM controller).

Component quality is the same once you factor in the driver mosfets for the ASUS' 40A NexFETS: Gigabyte uses a integrated driver+high+low side (IR3553) which can take 40A. They both have 10K Japanese Caps, 60A chokes. The ASUS uses the ASP1251 PWM controller instead of IR3563B.

The ASUS has superior fan control in terms of headers only to the UD3H and UD4H. The Z87X-UD5H has 4 fan headers that are independently controlled. What sets ASUS apart is BIOS min/max fan speeds , which doesn't matter that much unless you run Hackintosh or Linux build. Gigabyte fan control consists of "silent", "manual" with a retarded PWM value / °C, and "disabled" (full speed).


Z77X-UD5H (and all their Z77X boards) had all chassis fan headers linked together (absolutely dumb) so that's why the Gigabyte has terrible fan control thing gets repeated over and over.

IMO the ASUS Hero is the board to buy if you don't need the extra features of the UD5H (such as Dual LAN, 2 extra SATA3, IEEE1394 Firewire, more USB 3.0 ports) and care about a few dB SNR on your audio. It's about $30 cheaper.

GIgabyte's UD5H has ALC898 , ASUS has ALC1150 with EMI shielding (see difference http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2200/15/) .

The only issue I see with the ASUS board is that if anything goes wrong , ASUS RMA is absolutely horrific by all accounts on the forums these days.

edit:

also see
http://www.overclock.net/t/1398739/is-realteks-alc-1150-noticeably-better-than-the-alc-898-chip/30#post_20270447

Thank you very much, this helps me a lot! I appreciate it.
One last thing i need to iron out before i press the buy button
THIS is my old sound card, as i do not know that much about them, im asking if it would really matter if should go for a solution on witch i can use the sound card, keep in mind i have almost never used the front panel / remote combo.
    
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