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post #1 of 10
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Hi all,

I am thinking of building a mITX system as an upgrade to my existing system. Thinking of use Node304 as the Chasis.

After reading through the threads here, the question I have is more on CPU coolers that can fit with existing itx motherboards.

Motherboards shops here sell
1. MSI H87i
2. Asrock Z87E
3. Gigabyte H87N


Looking at the pictures, it seems like MSI & Gigabyte place the CPU pretty close to the pcie slot. So the option of tower air coolers could possibly block the GPU. While Asrock placed the CPU in the center, allowing the possibility of tower air coolers.
My thoughts were to try to keep to air coolers (like Hyper 212X) on MSI H87i to keep costs down.


So my question is, what are the air coolers that can work with various ITX motherboards which still allows a GPU?

I think such information helps for 1st time ITX builders like me, shared by veteran builders here.
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post #2 of 10
A lot of companies like Gigabyte place the socket in the bottom-right most area of the mobo. This places the socket right next to the RAM and PCIe slots.

The "Keep Out Zone" of the LGA1150 is 95x95mm. Virtually any tower HSF with a stock 92mm fan will fit. If you check heatsink dimensions, just make sure it is under about 100mm.
Page 29: http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/guides/4th-gen-core-lga1150-socket-guide.pdf

Of course, if your mobo's socket is a bit further away... you can often fit a 120mm HSF. Just double check the mountings so you can ensure it faces the right direction.

If you are handy with a Dremel, you can modify larger heatsinks to work as well. Here's a CM 212+ on a Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI. I trimmed like 5mm from the HSF so my HBA card would fit.
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post #3 of 10
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Looks like MSI may have a little more room for air coolers

Gigabyte H87N
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MSI H87i
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post #4 of 10
I'm actually in a similar boat since I'm looking to do a build with a the Z87N-WiFi from Gigabyte in a SG08 case. I was looking at the Zalman 8900 Extreme which seems to be the clear winner in performance but the cooler extends just enough over the PCI-E slot to render it incompatible. Would be an annoyance to have to rely on the stock intel HSF.
post #5 of 10
why get MSI or gigabyte when there is asrock which has the CPU in the right place?

for those who insist on the MSI/gigabyte then look at cooling solutions that worked for ivy/sandy users where the CPU location is right next to the PCIe slot

fyi noctua U9b works on my Z77E asrock if you want a tower otherwise a thiner tower orientated on the side works too
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by akromatic View Post

why get MSI or gigabyte when there is asrock which has the CPU in the right place?

for those who insist on the MSI/gigabyte then look at cooling solutions that worked for ivy/sandy users where the CPU location is right next to the PCIe slot

fyi noctua U9b works on my Z77E asrock if you want a tower otherwise a thiner tower orientated on the side works too

It is more a cost-saving issue to use a MSI or Gigabyte one, at least for me.
My shops only carry MSI H87I, Gigabyte H87N and Asrock Z87e, and Asrock one costs more.

Read in another forum Hyper 212X fits on the MSI H87i without any modding.
Wonder if anyone tried it.


As for Velathawen's problem, you can always resort to Closed Loop Coolers if $$ is not an issue.
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Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vector 256GB WD 1TB Blue Geminii S524 Windows 7 
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post #7 of 10
Not an option unfortunately, SG08 so everything is going to be a tight fit!
post #8 of 10
U9B noctua fits the SG08 if you dont use the stock 180mm fan

i replaced it with a 140mm noctua which gave it enough height clearance. scythe samurai zz and coolermaster vortex plus works too without changing the fan
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by Velathawen View Post

Not an option unfortunately, SG08 so everything is going to be a tight fit!

I saw this. Looks like a close loop cooler, just without the fan.



Other option is to place the radiator outside the case
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i5-4570 MSI H87i MSI GTX 770 Gaming G.Skill 1600Mhz 2x8GB 
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OCZ Vector 256GB WD 1TB Blue Geminii S524 Windows 7 
PowerCase
Silverstone ST55-G Node 304 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4570 MSI H87i MSI GTX 770 Gaming G.Skill 1600Mhz 2x8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vector 256GB WD 1TB Blue Geminii S524 Windows 7 
PowerCase
Silverstone ST55-G Node 304 
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post #10 of 10
I think the builder just use the included AP181 instead of the 120mm fan that CLC comes with, interesting approach. Would you happen to have a link to the original thread so I can look up the performance numbers?
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