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Ok, so after coming here and debating for about 6 month I finally bought a set of Audio Technica AD-AH700's. Simply astounding set of headphones. So well rounded and clear. Debating on making an upgrade at somepoint and essentially I want the clarity, detail and comfort of my 700's but now I want a deeper and more solid bass. I am using an Auzentech Bravura 7.1 with headphone amp currently and would like to keep it that way for now, will eventually get a stand-alone amp. I listen to a LOT of dubstep, but I listen to everything really and play games or watch movies.

Any ideas?
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Let me see if I can clarify this just a bit.
- You already have a pair of headphones (AH700) that has quality sound and is comfortable to wear for long periods of time.
- You want new headphones (maybe) that have more bass, but you do not want to sacrafise the comfort and quality you currently have with your AH700's.
Is this all correct? Your post was a bit hard to understand.
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Let me see if I can clarify this just a bit.
- You already have a pair of headphones (AH700) that has quality sound and is comfortable to wear for long periods of time.
- You want new headphones (maybe) that have more bass, but you do not want to sacrafise the comfort and quality you currently have with your AH700's.
Is this all correct? Your post was a bit hard to understand.

Pretty much lol. Bought my friend a set of AKG 701's with a soundcard+amp, gonna try those out when I go home. He is in love with them.
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Potentially unpopular opinion:

Just use some tasteful EQ. It will save you a lot of money and keep you away from too many audiophile myths. There are some pretty good free DSP options that may help you craft your sound closer to what you are looking for.
    
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Potentially unpopular opinion:

Just use some tasteful EQ. It will save you a lot of money and keep you away from too many audiophile myths. There are some pretty good free DSP options that may help you craft your sound closer to what you are looking for.

While a good EQ is always good it cannot change the sound that the headphones can produce, only maximize their output. I don't have mine tweaked perfectly, but I have tuned mine to what I feel is their best output and the most bass they can get. The bass is good but it is very "hollow", I am looking for more of a punch without sacrificing my clarity. A DSP is not going to give me what I want. My sound card comes with a nice one also. There is a reason that Denon sells $3,000 headphones, that is just out of my budget and those are more designed for pure or refined sound.
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Wow, I am shocked that no one has any recommendations.
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Ok, so after coming here and debating for about 6 month I finally bought a set of Audio Technica AD-AH700's. Simply astounding set of headphones. So well rounded and clear. Debating on making an upgrade at somepoint and essentially I want the clarity, detail and comfort of my 700's but now I want a deeper and more solid bass. I am using an Auzentech Bravura 7.1 with headphone amp currently and would like to keep it that way for now, will eventually get a stand-alone amp. I listen to a LOT of dubstep, but I listen to everything really and play games or watch movies.

Any ideas?

it seems you already know your stuff and what you want - who can help you? biggrin.gif
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it seems you already know your stuff and what you want - who can help you? biggrin.gif

Hahaha. More looking for peoples experiences and opinions of other headphones. Don't want to drop some serious cash and find out that they are not quite what I was looking for. I know AKG 701's, Beyerdynamic 880's and 990's, along with some Denons and Sennheisers are also popular. It's a case of too many options and not enough money to buy them all. :-D
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While a good EQ is always good it cannot change the sound that the headphones can produce, only maximize their output. I don't have mine tweaked perfectly, but I have tuned mine to what I feel is their best output and the most bass they can get. The bass is good but it is very "hollow", I am looking for more of a punch without sacrificing my clarity. A DSP is not going to give me what I want. My sound card comes with a nice one also. There is a reason that Denon sells $3,000 headphones, that is just out of my budget and those are more designed for pure or refined sound.
Equalization does not "maximize" output, the maximum amount of SPL is always tied to the output impedance, current and headphone efficiency. There is no "+6dB" in any DAC, the signal bottoms out after 0dBFS (that's why it's called decibels from full scale).

Also, while in theory all sound is a sum of sine waves and can be perfectly simulated, equalization can drastically change the sound for the better or the worse, depending on the particular headphones (transient response, ie. square wave test) and the headphone output's impedance (because this affects the damping factor on low frequencies and too low nominal impedances). Your headphones don't seem like a particularly difficult load so I don't see why you couldn't EQ them for more bass successfully. Try adjusting more around 30-100Hz and not too much higher than that because it turrns thumpy and hollow after that. And while some equalizers automatically zero the EQ levels, it's best if you don't apply any +dB settings but instead attenuate all the higher frequencies you don't want emphasized, then just turn up your pre-amp/headphone amplifier. I've seen some volume adjustments just very crudely compress and start distorting the output signal when +dB are applied, so better stick with attenuating unwanted frequencies.

If you really want to buy a new set of headphones, the Beyerdynamic's DT 770 Pro isolate very well, are IMO very comfortable, and have amounts of bass that make you grin. They're also durable and affordable. In another recommendation, the now discontinued Sony XB-700 are VERY affordable and surprisingly high quality/comfort for the price.
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