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post #1 of 7
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Hi,

I looked there and there and I think I'm close to make my credit card burns!
Here is the result of my quest :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($108.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($254.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Orange) Mini ITX Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1000.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-25 14:50 EDT-0400)

I have some questions.

Not silent related
-1- Will the G.Skill Ripjaws X fits with this motherboard and this big 212 EVO?

Silent related.
-2- I read that the stock fans of the prodigy are not so good.
What fans do you think could be nice for the front and back of this config?

Of course, if you have other suggestions, I'm open to have your feed back.

Thank you for your attention and your futur help.
post #2 of 7
Hmm...so you are going to go with a Mini ITX, that'll leave you plenty of space on your desk!

I am not exactly sure what you are going to use this machine for but perhaps you may want to consider getting a 1 TB+HDD as well for additional music/pictures/stuff. HDD drives these days aren't too expensive and it is a ton of space.

Also with the 760 and all, have you checked that 550W will be enough (with some breathing room in there as well)?

Quick research suggests that you should be good with your RAM fitting under the 212.
Sorry not too well versed with fans.
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Originally Posted by benpack101 View Post

Hmm...so you are going to go with a Mini ITX, that'll leave you plenty of space on your desk!

I am not exactly sure what you are going to use this machine for but perhaps you may want to consider getting a 1 TB+HDD as well for additional music/pictures/stuff. HDD drives these days aren't too expensive and it is a ton of space.

Oh, I forgot to mention I already have a HDD. So I'm ok on that point.
It will be a little gaming computer to do a lot of stuff. I tried to find parts with some good power but with some silent too.

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Originally Posted by benpack101 View Post

Also with the 760 and all, have you checked that 550W will be enough (with some breathing room in there as well)?

Quick research suggests that you should be good with your RAM fitting under the 212.
Sorry not too well versed with fans.

On pcpartpicker, when I enter all I want to put inside, the estimation is around 340W. I was thinking I was ok with 550W.
What's the rule of thumb?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zuuupp View Post

Oh, I forgot to mention I already have a HDD. So I'm ok on that point.
It will be a little gaming computer to do a lot of stuff. I tried to find parts with some good power but with some silent too.
On pcpartpicker, when I enter all I want to put inside, the estimation is around 340W. I was thinking I was ok with 550W.
What's the rule of thumb?
Good, then you'll have a good deal of space! Enjoy the SSD biggrin.gif

550W is definitely good then if it suggested you only need 340W, I guess I am only used to ATX boards where I am at least using 650W PSUs. 550W will be sufficient then. thumb.gif
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1) Why get RAM with huge heatspreaders at all? The potential exists for the fan (not the heatsink itself) to hit the RAM. How about some ultra low profile 1.35v Crucial DDR3?

2) Your system isn't going to be totally silent anyways, so I say just undervolt the stock fans and try it out. I think a lot of people automatically think that "stock" = "bad" without actually having tried them out. Also, I've read comments in forums about how "the stock fan was noisy, so I replaced it with this better one and undervolted it..." Well, why can't you just undervolt the stock fan?
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I guess I am only used to ATX boards where I am at least using 650W PSUs.

You mean you are used to having a 130W TDP hex core chip on a power hungry chipset? tongue.gif I'm not hating. I'm just jealous.

BTW have you tried using a Kill-A-Watt on your rig? It would be interesting to see the actual numbers. Many people overestimate power needs. For instance see this chart:


source

That test rig used a Core i7-920 with a slight overclock.
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post #6 of 7
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Thank for the reply
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zap View Post

1) Why get RAM with huge heatspreaders at all? The potential exists for the fan (not the heatsink itself) to hit the RAM. How about some ultra low profile 1.35v Crucial DDR3?
Yes, you're completely right.
In fact, since I posted yesterday I'm thinking to switch to Corsair Vengeance LP.
I'll have a look at the one you suggest.
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Originally Posted by Zap View Post

2) Your system isn't going to be totally silent anyways, so I say just undervolt the stock fans and try it out. I think a lot of people automatically think that "stock" = "bad" without actually having tried them out. Also, I've read comments in forums about how "the stock fan was noisy, so I replaced it with this better one and undervolted it..." Well, why can't you just undervolt the stock fan?
I like what to say. Keeping it simple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zap View Post

BTW have you tried using a Kill-A-Watt on your rig? It would be interesting to see the actual numbers. Many people overestimate power needs. For instance see this chart:


source

That test rig used a Core i7-920 with a slight overclock.
Could be interresting to do that when it'll be over.
I'm more and more ok to take the 550W PSU instead of the 650W.
I could go 450W but I think with an estimate of 340W and maybe adding things after, 550W seems ok.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zap View Post

1) Why get RAM with huge heatspreaders at all? The potential exists for the fan (not the heatsink itself) to hit the RAM. How about some ultra low profile 1.35v Crucial DDR3?

2) Your system isn't going to be totally silent anyways, so I say just undervolt the stock fans and try it out. I think a lot of people automatically think that "stock" = "bad" without actually having tried them out. Also, I've read comments in forums about how "the stock fan was noisy, so I replaced it with this better one and undervolted it..." Well, why can't you just undervolt the stock fan?
You mean you are used to having a 130W TDP hex core chip on a power hungry chipset? tongue.gif I'm not hating. I'm just jealous.

BTW have you tried using a Kill-A-Watt on your rig? It would be interesting to see the actual numbers. Many people overestimate power needs. For instance see this chart:
Well I did build a 2700k rig once wink.gif
Yes I quite enjoy my 3930k, wish I could upgrade to a better cooling system though...in time...

Quote:
Originally Posted by zuuupp View Post

Thank for the reply
Yes, you're completely right.
In fact, since I posted yesterday I'm thinking to switch to Corsair Vengeance LP.
I'll have a look at the one you suggest.
I like what to say. Keeping it simple.
Could be interresting to do that when it'll be over.
I'm more and more ok to take the 550W PSU instead of the 650W.
I could go 450W but I think with an estimate of 340W and maybe adding things after, 550W seems ok.
You will definitely be alright with 550W you have plenty of headway with the 550W if you do want to add a few things.


Now Zap brought up a good point about the RAM, I personally am very happy with my samsung low profiles.

Best of luck!
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