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I already turn off defragment schedule but my SSD still auto-defragment?

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hi all, first of all pardon for my english if there's incorrect grammar as it is my second language after all

so i just recently purchase SSD kingston hyper X 3k (recent as in yesterday).so i install it right away,put windows 7 home premium in it, all that good stuff.

then when im done i follow Sean SSD optimization guide to the letter. until where part to turn off defragment schedule.
so i when i turn off the schedule i could see that my SSD are not detectable on "select disk" (i thought since my SSD are not detectable that means win 7 already recognize it as a part that not need a defragmentation).

so i turn off the defragmentation schedule anyway(its written "Schedule Defragmentation is turned off" on defragmentation page" and the SSD "C" got never run "on Last Run tab".

then i woke up this morning and see my "C" drive Last run Tab are not Never Run anymore. it change to 26/07/2013 0:17 (5% fragmented) i was like ohh man that auto-defragmentation just wont turn off(where did i go wrong??)

sorry if i seem to worked up over this,because i read that defragment extremely reduce the lifespan of an SSD,and that terrifies me..

please give me advice on how to do this? thank you

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Disable "Disk Defragmenter" in Services.msc.
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Disable "Disk Defragmenter" in Services.msc.

thank you for replying but do you mind giving a more clear instruction how exactly do i do that? thx
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thank you for replying but do you mind giving a more clear instruction how exactly do i do that? thx

Absolutely! smile.gif I'll start off the instructions with my preferred way of opening Services.msc:

  1. Open the Start Menu
  2. Type services
  3. Press Enter
  4. Scroll down to "Disk Defragmenter"
  5. Double-click it
  6. In the very center of what comes up, you'll see a menu labeled "Startup type:" (the label is directly to its left)
  7. Open the menu and choose "Disabled"
  8. Click OK
  9. Close Services.msc
  10. Reboot

From this point forward, it should be totally taken care of. wink.gif
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Absolutely! smile.gif I'll start off the instructions with my preferred way of opening Services.msc:

  1. Open the Start Menu
  2. Type services
  3. Press Enter
  4. Scroll down to "Disk Defragmenter"
  5. Double-click it
  6. In the very center of what comes up, you'll see a menu labeled "Startup type:" (the label is directly to its left)
  7. Open the menu and choose "Disabled"
  8. Click OK
  9. Close Services.msc
  10. Reboot

From this point forward, it should be totally taken care of. wink.gif

thank you sooo much biggrin.gif . i have followed your instruction to the letter.. and now i cant seem to open disk defrag anymore(i tried clik it many times but it just doing nothing) so it must be all good now

one more question,because my SSD already being defragment (auto defragment) once..does it take a hit on a lifespan?? how much have i lost thinking.gif
Edited by goodman1280 - 7/25/13 at 6:35pm
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thank you sooo much biggrin.gif . i have followed your instruction to the letter..

one more question,because my SSD already being defragment (auto defragment) once..does it take a hit on a lifespan?? how much have i lost thinking.gif

Nope. You'd have to find a way to defrag it 24/7 for like several months straight to begin noticing a difference in performance. Even then it might be negligible. The only really "bad" thing about defragging a solid state drive is this: its onboard controller is going to do whatever it is designed to do with the fragments regardless of what Windows tells it to do (that is, via software like its built-in defragger, or a third-party defragger). So, no matter what, the drive is going to keep the fragments organized the way it "wants" to and therefore it "lies" to Windows saying that it did what was asked of it just to avoid errors popping up in front of the user.

In a nutshell, the preferred organization of fragments by a solid state drive's onboard controller is actually in a very fragmented state, spread out evenly in the cells for the sake of what's known as Wear-Leveling. So running a defragmenter is mostly just a waste of time.
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
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