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A 2x140mm radiator has 36% more frontal surface area than a 2x120mm. A 120mm Gentle Typhoon w/ a Bgears/Bitspower adapter has no problem pushing through the radiator. It most definitely performs 5% better, I'd say it is closer to 20-25% with no increase in noise. I have pretty much completely moved to 140mm radiators (w/ 120mm fans most of the time) and no way I'd go back.
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Very in and real informative. I have no base line you you are right. I don't know how to run tests and stuff. I just know how to push delete at boot to see that stuff.

Prime75 and real temp? Where do I get those? Free downloads?


Yes they are free downloads:
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/


Run Prime95 (default should be fine) and it will load all your cores 100%.
Real Temp is just monitoring, pretty straight forward
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So looks like I am looking at the 240mm rads: Which would you guys go with? CPU is whats on the loop first and at least for definite. Maybe down the road....I dont know if Gigabyte 7950 Rev 2.0 can get water blocks or even need them. Maybe the heat shield on the 990fxa-UD3?

1) Alphacool 240x80 rad in push/pull 120 fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16236/ex-rad-410/Alphacool_NexXxoS_Monsta_Dual_120mm_Radiator_-_80mm_Thick.html?tl=g30c95s160

2) Alphacool 240x60 rad in push/pull 120 fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14856/ex-rad-332/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_120mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s160

Note: if i did the Monsta with fans on it, they would literally be 1mm from the HDD cage. is that too close or should I go with the 60mm with fans? would that be a problem for the air flow? If I did the 60mm, then that leaves 20mm of space to the HDD cage

I see I can mount a 280mm rad on top of the case but I only have 68mm of room, in Push configuration only. Would the 280mm in only push configuration be better than a 240x60mm rad in push pull on bottom? "The roof can hold both 240mm and 280mm radiators, but there's only 68mm of height to play with. This limits you to slim radiators with fans on just one side"

Edited by glenquagmire - 10/3/13 at 7:56am
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So looks like I am looking at the 240mm rads: Which would you guys go with? CPU is whats on the loop first and at least for definite. Maybe down the road....I dont know if Gigabyte 7950 Rev 2.0 can get water blocks or even need them. Maybe the heat shield on the 990fxa-UD3?

1) Alphacool 240x80 rad in push/pull 120 fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16236/ex-rad-410/Alphacool_NexXxoS_Monsta_Dual_120mm_Radiator_-_80mm_Thick.html?tl=g30c95s160

2) Alphacool 240x60 rad in push/pull 120 fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14856/ex-rad-332/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_120mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s160

Note: if i did the Monsta with fans on it, they would literally be 1mm from the HDD cage. is that too close or should I go with the 60mm with fans? would that be a problem for the air flow? If I did the 60mm, then that leaves 20mm of space to the HDD cage

I see I can mount a 280mm rad on top of the case but I only have 68mm of room, in Push configuration only. Would the 280mm in only push configuration be better than a 240x60mm rad in push pull on bottom? "The roof can hold both 240mm and 280mm radiators, but there's only 68mm of height to play with. This limits you to slim radiators with fans on just one side"


The UT60 is a great rad. Don't know as much on the monster other than it is enormous, lol. It has the same construction though I believe. I haven't seen any metrics on the 80, but the UT60 is really good with high RPM fans...for low RPM, the Hardware Labs SR1 cannot be beat. Additional note on hardware labs, their rads have the best build quality I have seen

In the top, I'd just use a 30-45mm thick rad and a standard fan like the AP-15 or E-Loops in push or pull.

Push and pull are about the same all around...I believe pull is best at low RPM and push is best at high RPM

Push/pull is useful for thick rads to ensure that air is going all the way through the rad evenly so that you dont have half of the rad hotter then the other. If you get the 60 or 80, then I'd personally run push/pull on em...Otherwise, push or pull is fine
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A small possible issue on the 80mm in push pull is that it buts right up to the hdd cage with 1mm to spare. So basically the top fan clears fine but the bottom blows directly into the hdd cage with really no gap. Does this matter? The 60mm would blow the same but there would be at least 20mm gap from the hdd cage that both could still breathe. Thoughts?
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A small possible issue on the 80mm in push pull is that it buts right up to the hdd cage with 1mm to spare. So basically the top fan clears fine but the bottom blows directly into the hdd cage with really no gap. Does this matter? The 60mm would blow the same but there would be at least 20mm gap from the hdd cage that both could still breathe. Thoughts?

With Fractal cases, can't you rotate the cage so the air flows through the cage, across the HDDs?
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in short yes however keep in mind the length of the cage is longer than it is wide. So what that means is I may not actually have any space because I will have turned it sideways probably putting up against the cables for the power supply while still taking up the same amount of space against the radiator.

so if I cannot repossession the cage, would it be a bad thing to haVe the 80 millimeter radiator with fans putting up to the hard drive cage with one millimeter of space remaining or should I do the 60 millimeter radiator with fans giving me 20 millimeters of space remaining?
Edited by glenquagmire - 10/3/13 at 11:34am
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Well happy to say I have now moved the hdd with a minor mod the cage, and now have 4 15/16 (125mm) of an inch to play with. Before I only had 4 1/8 (104.7mm) of an inch. Gives me an extra 3/4 of an inch or 20mm extra.

In summary I can now fit a 80mm rad with push pull fans at 105mm with a total available space of 125mm(the front of the case fractal design xl r2 mounts 2 120 so it doesn't count against the room on the inside of the case).
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I can mount a 60mm rad with push pull fans at 85mm with with a total space of 125mm.

Planned on using gentle typhoon or alike fans for either rad. It's a silent case case so I should have less sound by default than another case.

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