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I've heard many people saying that PS3/xbox 360 beats 6 or 7 year old PC

However, they are wrong. 7 year old high-end PC with 8800GTX can still beat current consoles even in modern games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQmTcm5vojY
not sure what you're going at. Sure, your 8800GTX still beats the consoles, but it was also still more expensive!

the usual argument goes as follows...

Console vs PC

Buy a console and PC now for the same price.

In 7 years, see how they fare.

For some reason, people have this habit of comparing the consoles to their $1,000+ computers.

If the games don't interest you, that's one thing, but if people just don't like consoles because it's inferior to their PC, they might as well put their own PC into perspective and think what people with i7-3970X's and Quad Titan's think about your PC.
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I've heard many people saying that PS3/xbox 360 beats 6 or 7 year old PC

However, they are wrong. 7 year old high-end PC with 8800GTX can still beat current consoles even in modern games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQmTcm5vojY
Lets be honest, who cares.
The pixel/particle counters. rolleyes.gif

How about people who actually take the time to consider which platforms offers better end value rolleyes.gif

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not sure what you're going at. Sure, your 8800GTX still beats the consoles, but it was also still more expensive!

the usual argument goes as follows...

Console vs PC

Buy a console and PC now for the same price.

In 7 years, see how they fare.

For some reason, people have this habit of comparing the consoles to their $1,000+ computers.

If the games don't interest you, that's one thing, but if people just don't like consoles because it's inferior to their PC, they might as well put their own PC into perspective and think what people with i7-3970X's and Quad Titan's think about your PC.

But that's not a fair comparison. What you should be comparing is the total money spent over the 7 years. Depending on buying habits it quite possible for the PC to end up cheaper even if the initial system costs $700-1200 and that's not even taking in to account that consoles need a screen to be it a HDTV or an monitor.
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It looks like we pay the premium to feel superior to other people, apparently.

You want supercar performance you pay supercar prices. Gaming is no different.
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You want supercar performance you pay supercar prices. Gaming is no different.
Wise words my friend.
I just wish they would learn that technology advances fast, and release a new console accordingly. Although I don't see graphics and such improving THAT much, now I want to see scale and alive worlds. (And new ways to play ie. Oculus rift)
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Wise words my friend.
I just wish they would learn that technology advances fast, and release a new console accordingly. Although I don't see graphics and such improving THAT much, now I want to see scale and alive worlds. (And new ways to play ie. Oculus rift)

That's the way it used to be. 7 years was the longest interwall and that's due to the NES being the dawn of the second wave of the consoles and it took years before it was even available outside Japan.

Nintendo

NES 7year --> Super NES 6years --> N64 5 years --> Game Cube 5 years --> Wii 6 years --> Wii U ongoing

SEGA

Sega SG-1000 2 years --> Master System 3 years --> Genesis 6 years --> Saturn 4 years --> Dreamcast

Sony

PS1 6 years --> PS2 6 years --> PS3 7 years --> PS4 not out yet

Microsoft

Xbox 4 years --> Xbox 360 8 years--> Xbox One not out yet

The 5-6 year console cycle was good and that's what they should have stuck to.
    
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I think it would be FANTASTIC if consoles, now that they're x86 based, could be updated more regularly. Instead of being stuck with these already technologically behind the curve consoles for the next EIGHT MOTHER$!%@#$ YEARS or so why not release updated versions a few years down the road. Stuff like backwards compatibility and what not could still be maintained quite easily.

Like, if cellphones are new every year and can still do all the same things and run all the same apps as the model before it from a year ago why can't consoles be the same way? Not to mention the fact that cellphones not only cost more to manufacture but cost more to buy as well.

Would be awesome of Sony came out with a new Playstation iteration ever year or every other year. Would progress graphics and technology while still maintaining backwards compatibility. I mean, I know everyone isn't rich...but is it THAT hard to save up a $300-400 in a two year period? I could come up with that much in that length of time even when I was 10 years old, didn't have a job, and parent's were poor.

Just pipe dreams I know...but I can already see us PC gamers wanting a new console a couple years down the road. Sure the new consoles are bringing DX11 and GPU computing, etc to PC's...but console ports to PC can only get SO much more better than the console versions. I mean, a lot of PC gamers are ALREADY way a head of consoles and will be more than capable of running next-gen games at max settings.

Look at a game like The Division...looks INCREDIBLE and is truly a NEXT-GEN game...problem being is that with my sig rig I ALREADY know that I'll be able to max the game out @ 1080p. Why? Because I simply have the power needed. There's no way anything game that comes out on consoles when ported to the PC could truly stress my 4.5GHz 2500k, 8GB of RAM, and 1200MHz 7970. Just no way.

At least current gen consoles had some truly high-end tech when they came out.
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ps4 version looks ok to me
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I think it would be FANTASTIC if consoles, now that they're x86 based, could be updated more regularly. Instead of being stuck with these already technologically behind the curve consoles for the next EIGHT MOTHER$!%@#$ YEARS or so why not release updated versions a few years down the road. Stuff like backwards compatibility and what not could still be maintained quite easily.

Like, if cellphones are new every year and can still do all the same things and run all the same apps as the model before it from a year ago why can't consoles be the same way? Not to mention the fact that cellphones not only cost more to manufacture but cost more to buy as well.

Would be awesome of Sony came out with a new Playstation iteration ever year or every other year. Would progress graphics and technology while still maintaining backwards compatibility. I mean, I know everyone isn't rich...but is it THAT hard to save up a $300-400 in a two year period? I could come up with that much in that length of time even when I was 10 years old, didn't have a job, and parent's were poor.

Just pipe dreams I know...but I can already see us PC gamers wanting a new console a couple years down the road. Sure the new consoles are bringing DX11 and GPU computing, etc to PC's...but console ports to PC can only get SO much more better than the console versions. I mean, a lot of PC gamers are ALREADY way a head of consoles and will be more than capable of running next-gen games at max settings.

Look at a game like The Division...looks INCREDIBLE and is truly a NEXT-GEN game...problem being is that with my sig rig I ALREADY know that I'll be able to max the game out @ 1080p. Why? Because I simply have the power needed. There's no way anything game that comes out on consoles when ported to the PC could truly stress my 4.5GHz 2500k, 8GB of RAM, and 1200MHz 7970. Just no way.

At least current gen consoles had some truly high-end tech when they came out.

Unfortunately, that would be pointless. If the newer games still have to be viable on the older consoles, then they're just going to be held back and the new hardware would go to waste. The only way to avoid that would be to create multiple versions of the game, increasing the number of platforms developers have to code for, which increases production time and cost, and would inevitably lead to even more expensive games.

Also consider that the console manufacturers often take a loss with each console sold (that is, they cost more to produce than they sell for) but they make their profit in games. The R&D and production cost of making new consoles every 2 years would also surely drive the prices way, way up. There's a reason consoles use relatively long life cycles. The companies making them aren't in it to say they have the latest tech, they're in it to maximize profit.
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