Originally Posted by Darkpriest667
Originally Posted by givmedew
I don't think they have cellphones in pace makers. I have a unit that is similar to a pace maker in my body. They program it with a palm pilot that has an attachment. It uses near field communication and the pad/antenna/charger must be right above the device.
I have limited control of the device with my own remote (although I know how to get into the advanced programming).
Because it is a pain in the butt to hold this thing to my body the entire time I am adjusting it I asked why don't you guys use Bluetooth or the other similar but less common technology or even a propitary technology. They said because of security issues.
That said no doubt someone could easily amplify the signal and hack into my unit and max out the settings.
I could in fact use my controller to change someone else's device. There is no security... I could be severally injured and would definitely crash a car if I was driving and this device was maxed out. It has a decent sized battery.
So killing over a network... I doubt it and I doubt that aside from that other non Bluetooth wireless technology being at home and sending data logs to the dr that there is any network connection.
But if there the dr could program it remotely back through that connection then yes it would be over a public and vulnerable connection your Internet provider unless the box at your home is cellular based.
Anyways scary stuff and hope they fix it so I can have a wireless remote 10 years from now when my battery goes bad.
Very cool info thanks for sharing that with us. You aren't going to wait the full 10 years to replace the battery are you? Secondly, how old are you may I ask when they installed the device?
The device was installed 2.5 years ago. It is recharged at least once a week using something similar to how a rechargeable toothbrush recharges. Through my skin... it gets a little warm. The more often I charge it the less damage to the battery there will be. Using the programs that use substantially less energy (the ones that would give me over a week of battery life) will also mean my battery will take less damage over time. The battery is not of the same quality as a battery that would be in a cell phone. It is medical grade and judging by the cost of the unit they could have put whatever battery existed in there and still made a killing. So 6-20 years was the life expectancy quoted to me and even at that time the battery would still be functional just require more frequent charging. A better quote of 10 years was given to me later and they based that off my usage and charging habits. The device is called a neurostimulator and it sends electrical signals to my spine to mask pain signals. It is quite capable of essentially tasing me at the higher settings and in comparison to its max output I am using only a tiny tiny amount of power. While the people program it they have turned it up to unacceptable levels and that was still nowhere near the max. I could easily see a car crash being the result of suddenly enabling all of the leads and electrodes at the highest output on every electrode. I use 2 of 8 electrodes and only have 1 lead and run those 2 electrodes at a very low output. There are people who have these that have (I think) up to 4 leads. My unit can only have 2 installed but there are ones that are 3 times the thickness of mine (because of the battery). I am instructed to not drive with the unit on even at low settings and I do turn it off because pressure on the spine can sometimes cause sudden and huge increases in stimulation effect which again it really is like being tased. Caughing is painful because it will suddenly cause a huge spike in stim and sneezing is even worse.
Either way the lack of security is appalling. My control unit should be serialized to the unit or something like that and share an authentication key. Instead of being able to directly interface with my unit with their programming device they should have to plug it into my control device to gain access. Loosing my control device should require the highest level of security to obtain a new control with the authentication to access my device. As a fail safe to loosing the control device the unit can be easily shut off with a reasonably high power magnet like a 1" U shaped normal magnet or a small 1cm neodymium magnet. So there really is no excuse that the only "security" that the unit has is that it must be programmed from a wireless wand that is only an inch or so from the device. The control unit is "universal" in the sense that it doesn't even have the program information on it. The program information is sent to it from the implant every time it connects to the implant.
Someone elses comment about medical devices being some of the devices with the largest security issues was dead on. Because there is tons of other stuff some completely wireless that have little to no security. For example the security measures on a pump that administers narcotic pain substances is relatively low (has to be if a nurse could adjust it) and there is enough inside the machine to kill someone very quickly. There is basically no security on the standard pumps and there are times where medicine is administered with them that "could" be dangerous if given to quickly but nothing like what is inside the other device.
So they really need to step up security on stuff like that.
I think this is the model they implanted but after looking at the other models I am kind of upset they didn't use the mini version... they probably didn't think it would have long enough battery life. I am not the dr so...
Says "FDA-approved to last at least 10 years at high stimulation settings". They also have a huge non-rechargeable one but no thanks lol... I wouldn't want that huge ass thing in me.Edited by givmedew - 7/29/13 at 2:41pm