Overclock.net › Forums › Mobile Computing Forum › Laptops and Netbooks › Future haswell U recommendation thread? haha
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Future haswell U recommendation thread? haha - Page 2

post #11 of 22
The Sager is kind of tempting. But I would hold off until there are more options on the market and a little more price competitive. It's not a bad deal. But for the price, Lenovo sells a comparible machine (Lenovo Y410p) with a more pedestrian LED backlit 1600x900 TN panel for around the same price. Unfortunately, it also comes with a 1TB/24GB cache package, a GT 750M, with the option of being able to slot in a second for SLI whenever you want, backlit keyboard, and an operating system. All for approx $1080.

Of note, they have also been having non-stop sales lately on these models, some dropping the price of that particular model down to $849 + free shipping.
Edited by AMv8(1day) - 8/7/13 at 7:30am
2nd Gen HTPC
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10 5800K ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4-M AMD 7660D GSKill Sniper Series 32GB DDR3 1866MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Vertex 2 120GB Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2TB Asus BD-ROM BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Win7 Ult 64bit 
MonitorPower
Samsung 3D LED ES6200 55" 250W P.O.S. 
  hide details  
Reply
2nd Gen HTPC
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10 5800K ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4-M AMD 7660D GSKill Sniper Series 32GB DDR3 1866MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Vertex 2 120GB Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2TB Asus BD-ROM BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Win7 Ult 64bit 
MonitorPower
Samsung 3D LED ES6200 55" 250W P.O.S. 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by AMv8(1day) View Post

The Sager is kind of tempting. But I would hold off until there are more options on the market and a little more price competitive. It's not a bad deal. But for the price, Lenovo sells a comparible machine (Lenovo Y410p) with a more pedestrian LED backlit 1600x900 TN panel for around the same price. Unfortunately, it also comes with a 1TB/24GB cache package, a GT 750M, with the option of being able to slot in a second for SLI whenever you want, backlit keybo and an operating system. All for approx $1080.

Of note, they have also been having non-stop sales lately on these models, some dropping the price of that particular model down to $849 + free shipping.

Apparently Intel is charging out the ass for Iris Pro chips. The Iris chips are about $80 more than then the regular equivalent. Sadly I don't think these chips are going to make it into lower-end machines because a 4700MQ + GT740M (maybe even 750M) is cheaper. These chips will only be useful in thin & light laptops basically.

Also don't forget the Sager comes with a SSD, which is pretty cool. I love Lenovo's, but the only gripe I have with them is their hard drive selection. None of the Y series can hold 2 drives, and they put 1TB 5400RPM pieces of junk in them.
Edited by Lombax - 8/7/13 at 9:12am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4690K Asus Z97M-PLUS Sapphire Dual-X R9 290X Kingston HyperX Fury Black 2x4GB  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120GB Samsung 840 + 3TB Barricudea Corsair H55 with SP120 Quiet Windows 8.1 Asus VS247H-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RK-9000BR Cherry MX Brown SilverStone 600W fully modular Corsair 350D Windowed Corsair M65 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4690K Asus Z97M-PLUS Sapphire Dual-X R9 290X Kingston HyperX Fury Black 2x4GB  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120GB Samsung 840 + 3TB Barricudea Corsair H55 with SP120 Quiet Windows 8.1 Asus VS247H-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RK-9000BR Cherry MX Brown SilverStone 600W fully modular Corsair 350D Windowed Corsair M65 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombax View Post

Not to double post, but the Sager NP2740 just came out.

14" 1080p IPS, i7-4750HQ with Iris Pro 5200, and a 128GB mSATA SSD default (no HDD default), for $1200 w/ OS.

Very promising looking laptop, 3.8 lbs, .75" thick. Maybe it will help Clevo/Sager have better market awareness, but probably not :/

If we are going to turn this into a recommendation thread, here is what I am looking for:
  • Under 15.6"
  • 1080p preferred but can work with less
  • Maintenance friendly - User replaceable HDD/SSD, RAM, and preferably the battery.
  • Preferably no plastic
  • i7
*** See OP for updated list ***
Edited by The_Hairy_Yak - 8/8/13 at 6:28pm
post #14 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Hairy_Yak View Post

If we are going to turn this into a recommendation thread, here is what I am looking for:
  • Under 15.6"
  • 1080p preferred but can work with less
  • Maintenance friendly - User replaceable HDD/SSD, RAM, and preferably the battery.
  • Not plastic
  • i7 w/ Iris Pro 5200

Heres the thing, thats not going to exist. If you see the post I said above you, manufacturers can make an i7 + GT740M for cheaper, which is much more powerful, and better on battery w/ Optimus. The only laptops benefiting from Iris Pro is ultrabooks, in which you usually cannot change out batteries and sometimes not RAM.

The Sager gets close, but the only problem being your plastic gripe; though the Sagers lid and belly are magnesium, the rest of the body is plastic.
Edited by Lombax - 8/7/13 at 7:36pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4690K Asus Z97M-PLUS Sapphire Dual-X R9 290X Kingston HyperX Fury Black 2x4GB  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120GB Samsung 840 + 3TB Barricudea Corsair H55 with SP120 Quiet Windows 8.1 Asus VS247H-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RK-9000BR Cherry MX Brown SilverStone 600W fully modular Corsair 350D Windowed Corsair M65 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4690K Asus Z97M-PLUS Sapphire Dual-X R9 290X Kingston HyperX Fury Black 2x4GB  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120GB Samsung 840 + 3TB Barricudea Corsair H55 with SP120 Quiet Windows 8.1 Asus VS247H-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RK-9000BR Cherry MX Brown SilverStone 600W fully modular Corsair 350D Windowed Corsair M65 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombax View Post

Heres the thing, thats not going to exist. If you see the post I said above you, manufacturers can make an i7 + GT740M for cheaper, which is much more powerful, and better on battery w/ Optimus. The only laptops benefiting from Iris Pro is ultrabooks, in which you usually cannot change out batteries and sometimes not RAM.

The Sager gets close, but the only problem being your plastic gripe; though the Sagers lid and belly are magnesium, the rest of the body is plastic.

Curious. Pardon me for my insolence. I did most of my research on i5-3210m models and it fit the bill (never actually bought one), with Iris I simply upgraded my requirements on the CPU without looking into price/performance technicalities.

I will edit my requirements based on the information you provided. Though I'm sure someone will repeat what you just said with something else I missed. Till next time.

cheers.gif
+1
post #16 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Hairy_Yak View Post

Curious. Pardon me for my insolence. I did most of my research on i5-3210m models and it fit the bill (never actually bought one), with Iris I simply upgraded my requirements on the CPU without looking into price/performance technicalities.

I will edit my requirements based on the information you provided. Though I'm sure someone will repeat what you just said with something else I missed. Till next time.

cheers.gif
+1

The only reason I say GT740M is because I know HP charges $40 to put a 740M in their ENVY laptops. So assuming HP isn't taking a loss, a GT740M should be cheaper for manufacturers to implement than an Iris Pro. And for day-to-day stuff, any nVidia GPU w/ Optimus should get better battery than an Iris Pro.

I know you said under 15", but I'll suggest you take a peek at Asus N550JV. I don't know your budget, but it has a 15.6" 1080p IPS, i7-4700HQ, and a GT750M for $940, +$100 for touchscreen. Made completely of aluminum. Its pretty thin for a non-ultrabook, average weight, FULL keyboard, 5.5 hour battery life. My girlfriend just bought this out of my recommendation, should be here any day.

Its going to be hard to find a match for you, especially mid-refresh with most laptops not being updated yet.

EDIT: Again, unknowing of budget: Lenovo Y410p. 14" with 768p or 900p, i7-4700MQ, and GT750M. The lid and palm/wrist area should be made of aluminum, with the rest being plastic. I say should because the review I looked up was for the Y510p, but it should be the same.
Edited by Lombax - 8/8/13 at 8:31pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4690K Asus Z97M-PLUS Sapphire Dual-X R9 290X Kingston HyperX Fury Black 2x4GB  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120GB Samsung 840 + 3TB Barricudea Corsair H55 with SP120 Quiet Windows 8.1 Asus VS247H-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RK-9000BR Cherry MX Brown SilverStone 600W fully modular Corsair 350D Windowed Corsair M65 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4690K Asus Z97M-PLUS Sapphire Dual-X R9 290X Kingston HyperX Fury Black 2x4GB  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120GB Samsung 840 + 3TB Barricudea Corsair H55 with SP120 Quiet Windows 8.1 Asus VS247H-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RK-9000BR Cherry MX Brown SilverStone 600W fully modular Corsair 350D Windowed Corsair M65 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombax View Post

The only reason I say GT740M is because I know HP charges $40 to put a 740M in their ENVY laptops. So assuming HP isn't taking a loss, a GT740M should be cheaper for manufacturers to implement than an Iris Pro. And for day-to-day stuff, any nVidia GPU w/ Optimus should get better battery than an Iris Pro.

I know you said under 15", but I'll suggest you take a peek at Asus N550JV. I don't know your budget, but it has a 15.6" 1080p IPS, i7-4700HQ, and a GT750M for $940, +$100 for touchscreen. Made completely of aluminum. Its pretty thin for a non-ultrabook, average weight, FULL keyboard, 5.5 hour battery life. My girlfriend just bought this out of my recommendation, should be here any day.

Its going to be hard to find a match for you, especially mid-refresh with most laptops not being updated yet.

EDIT: Again, unknowing of budget: Lenovo Y410p. 14" with 768p or 900p, i7-4700MQ, and GT750M. The lid and palm/wrist area should be made of aluminum, with the rest being plastic. I say should because the review I looked up was for the Y510p, but it should be the same.

It is not necessarily time dependent. I would rather buy exactly what I want than skimp something. I've already been waiting for a long time. I also have an unrestricted budget, but would *like* to spend under $1000. I also think I might wait out Q3 and go for a U chip, but I'm sure it will take most of fall term for sometime appetizing to come out. Half the TDP is pretty enticing. Ideally I would like to be able to play stuff like TL2 or LoL, I need to do some more research into the benchmarks to see what I actually require GPU wise. I'll check back in later today and update things a bit with a more intelligent request.
post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Hairy_Yak View Post

It is not necessarily time dependent. I would rather buy exactly what I want than skimp something. I've already been waiting for a long time. I also have an unrestricted budget, but would *like* to spend under $1000. I also think I might wait out Q3 and go for a U chip, but I'm sure it will take most of fall term for sometime appetizing to come out. Half the TDP is pretty enticing. Ideally I would like to be able to play stuff like TL2 or LoL, I need to do some more research into the benchmarks to see what I actually require GPU wise. I'll check back in later today and update things a bit with a more intelligent request.

So I did a bit more research and came to the following conclusion. I believe the 4288U and 4558U chips would be acceptable for LoL/TL2. But, I am unsure if they will ever be available in a maintenance friendly all metal case... the wait continues...
post #19 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombax View Post

Don't forget the Sager comes with a SSD, which is pretty cool. I love Lenovo's, but the only gripe I have with them is their hard drive selection. None of the Y series can hold 2 drives, and they put 1TB 5400RPM pieces of junk in them.

Well apparently the Y410p actually makes the bay containing the optical drive very swap friendly. Allowing you to swap in either another drive, or another 750M for SLI. Also, the mSATA slot isn't limited to caching. You could swap in a proper sized mSATA SSD (such as a 128-256GB Crucial M4) and relegate the 1TB drive for Media/storage. Or swap in x2 1.5TB HGST Travelstar 5K1500's for a completely unnecessary amount of SSD/HDD space. Oh and setup a 10GB RAMDisk for your temp folders and Internet caching.
As for the HDD/SSD caching, I'm sure all of the SSD purists will bulk and complain, but the SSD caching on my girlfriends Win8 HP does a pretty decent job for the small extra investment. I prefer SSD boot drives with separate storage, but there is a lot to be said for the simplicity of having one volume to deal with. Especially for the less tech savvy, or less organized filer. I have been running SSD boot drives in every build since the Vertex Turbo days, but for someone that isn't timing their boot ups, and just wants it to work without having to completely redo all of their folder systems? I have to give it to the SSD caching.
And once again, you can always pickup a larger mSATA SSD of your own choosing without getting stuck with the lowest market performance, high volume value crap that the manufacturer would stuff in there.
Or run two Samsung 840 Pros in RAID 0 and impress your friends with 4 second boot times.
Edited by AMv8(1day) - 8/12/13 at 3:07pm
2nd Gen HTPC
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10 5800K ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4-M AMD 7660D GSKill Sniper Series 32GB DDR3 1866MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Vertex 2 120GB Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2TB Asus BD-ROM BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Win7 Ult 64bit 
MonitorPower
Samsung 3D LED ES6200 55" 250W P.O.S. 
  hide details  
Reply
2nd Gen HTPC
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10 5800K ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4-M AMD 7660D GSKill Sniper Series 32GB DDR3 1866MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Vertex 2 120GB Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2TB Asus BD-ROM BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Win7 Ult 64bit 
MonitorPower
Samsung 3D LED ES6200 55" 250W P.O.S. 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20 of 22
So the Y410p does have the ability for the 750m ultrabay as well? I was under the impression that they couldnt be bought from lenovo quite yet but I could be mistaken I havent been following it that closely for a few weeks
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2670 @ 2.8Ghz m4600 m5100 @ 900c/1350m 20GB DDR3 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
128GB SSD 1TB 5400rpm 750GB 5400rpm Windows 10 x64  
MonitorPowerMouse
1920x1080 @95hz 150w Corsair M40 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2670 @ 2.8Ghz m4600 m5100 @ 900c/1350m 20GB DDR3 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
128GB SSD 1TB 5400rpm 750GB 5400rpm Windows 10 x64  
MonitorPowerMouse
1920x1080 @95hz 150w Corsair M40 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Laptops and Netbooks
Overclock.net › Forums › Mobile Computing Forum › Laptops and Netbooks › Future haswell U recommendation thread? haha