Originally Posted by Minotaurtoo
Originally Posted by Durquavian
That is why basing benches as fact is quite the issue. It will all come down to each and every component you buy. And then how you are able, if needed or wanted, to OC and search for that sweet spot between all the components. Get one part that doesn't work well with the rest of the system and it wont matter what CPU you bought.
exactly! I've actually had proof of that in my shop where the same cpu, ram and gpu combination was in use on another motherboard and the same game I play on here all the time with no problems would barely play on his machine... it took me a while to figure out what was going on, but after a lot of testing and no errors reported on various pieces of hardware I convinced him to buy a sabertooth 990FX R2 and it solved all the problems in performance... his SSD even read/wrote faster on the new board!.... he learned not to go with a cheap MSI board then lol.
again why i tell everyone to buy quality components to go with the CPU of choice otherwise the bottleneck will be else where like the ram or motherboard which i stated before basically if you buy a cheap motherboard with a super high end CPU i bet most of time you will only see 1/2 the performance or less with Intel or AMD also if you buy cheap 1333mhz-1600mhz ram with a AMD FX 8320-8350 or Intel I5-I7 the performance will be crappy remember cheap ram is cheap for a reason often has super loose timings and horrible bandwidth / performance vs quality performance ram same goes for the motherboards now when it comes to the GPU's things get a bit different alot of the cheaper versions of same GPU's perform the same but have horrible cooling or simply were built cheap and dont last long or offer little to no overclocking i also want to say 90% of the time the slowest part of a computer is the hard drive so i cant recommend enough a good ssd to get the performance up.
regardless dont skimp on the vitals like motherboard / ram or PSU to get a better CPU if you do this you wont ever get the performance and often will run into chasing the ghost in the machine trying to figure out why or will simply have reliability issues which is why i feel the AMD side is better place to put the money at this moment get a great CPU and also can get a good high quality high end motherboard for alot cheaper than doing same on Intel side AMD high end motherboards are alot cheaper than Intel high end motherboards and AMD CPU's are cheaper and offer near same performance as what has been proven in this thread.
I also would like to point out AMD FX 8350 loves 1866mhz ram with tight timings and will gain a nice bit of performance over 1600mhz ram also if you crank the NB to 2400mhz-2600mhz you get a very nice bump in all around performance not including the CPU overclocking potential i gained 1200 points in 3dmark vantage by upping my NB to 2600mhz wasnt 100% stable but 2400mhz was and only brought that score down by 200 so the NB will give a really good bump in performance especialy when running raid0 with good ssd's and running trifire crossfire it also helped my scaling on my GPU's was 90%-94% across all three on crysis 3 by upping the NB to 2400mhz it increased to 96%-98% each also dont let people tell you running SLI / crossfire on a AMD FX 8350 will seriously hurt the scaling this is false it will dock you a few percentage like 3%-8% which in terms docks you like 10-20 fps max which honestly if with crossfire / SLI you cant get 60FPS solid something is very wrong or setup wrong or simply you used way inferior cards to crossfire / SLI.
a bit of good proof on this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-scaling-bottleneck,3471-3.html http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-core-i7-3770k-4-8ghz-multi-gpu-gaming-performance/17494.html/2
you will notice games that use multi threading above 4+ cores performed nearly identical across board to Intel even when using AMD FX 8350 so facts are on modern games and future games the theory of AMD FX 8320-8350 cant do crossfire / SLI is false all the modern games that multithread performed very well with both crossfire / SLI.Edited by rickcooperjr - 8/4/13 at 11:43am