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Recently my second Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 started having random disconnect issues like the one before it (an aging problem I assume), and now that the price for them is rather high and I've noticed they have a short lifespan, I have decided to purchase a different mouse this time. The Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 and Deathadder were by far my favorite gaming mice due to the shape and comfort, since I myself am a palm grip user with large hands and therefore like such large and comfortable mice. But I've found that the Deathadder doesn't last very long either for different reasons (loose clicker, stuck scroller), and is also expensive. I'm not sure if that has changed with the new versions but I don't want to find out either.

After doing some research I've narrowed down that the two mice I'm interested in are Mionix Naos 3200 and the Logitech G400s. To help me with this decision I will list my strong preferences below:

1. Being able to set the DPI to 400 and still have it perform well.
2. The one which would provide more comfort to a palm grip user with large hands.
3. No angle snapping, correction prediction, acceleration, jittering, and similar faults.
4. Would most likely last 2 years without major problems (So finding out which one has the best durability/sensor is important!).

With all that in mind, which of these two mice is best for me?
Edited by Draulius - 7/27/13 at 12:08pm
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If you gonna go low DPI, might as well try to get a MX518. I have one and it's still going strong. As for durability, seems to be a lottery these days.

You can also look into the Zowie EC1 Evo and the G500. The Mionix Naos looks like my Qpad 5K, and it takes getting used to. If you just want a 3.0 replacement, you're probably better of with a more conventional mouse. The Naos and the 5K are good mice, but hey, they are a bit out of the ordinary.
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Originally Posted by Draulius View Post

Recently my second Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 started having random disconnect issues like the one before it (an aging problem I assume), and now that the price for them is rather high and I've noticed they have a short lifespan, I have decided to purchase a different mouse this time. The Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 and Deathadder were by far my favorite gaming mice due to the shape and comfort, since I myself am a palm grip user with large hands and therefore like such large and comfortable mice. But I've found that the Deathadder doesn't last very long either for different reasons (loose clicker, stuck scroller), and is also expensive. I'm not sure if that has changed with the new versions but I don't want to find out either.

After doing some research I've narrowed down that the two mice I'm interested in are Mionix Naos 3200 and the Logitech G400s. To help me with this decision I will list my strong preferences below:

1. Being able to set the DPI to 400 and still have it perform well.
2. The one which would provide more comfort to a palm grip user with large hands.
3. No angle snapping, correction prediction, acceleration, jittering, and similar faults.
4. Would most likely last 2 years without major problems (So finding out which one has the best durability/sensor is important!).

With all that in mind, which of these two mice is best for me?

G400 died within 5 months of major use. Naos 5000 is still going strong for a year +. I can't say much about #3, since the Naos 5000 is a laser mouse, and has said mouse acceleration and whatnot. But the optical Naos 3200 if I remember correctly doesn't have the problems that the Naos 5000 has.

In terms of comfort to a palm grip user with medium-large hands, definitely the Naos 3200 hands down. Its like putting your hand into a glove that engulfs it in comfort.
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My G400 was very jittery and such after adjusting settings and playing mousepad roulette. I just decided to get a new mouse. I'll answer your questions for the G400.

1. 100% relies on the surface, but the G400 will perform good at that DPI with a good surface.
2. Both are good, this is your preference really.
3. Like I said, I had jittering on the G400. There are two revisions of the G400, one with angle snapping and one without. There are threads on here to tell the difference between the two.
4. The G400 cord is pretty thin and I've heard of it going bad after a while. I had mine for 10 months without any issues. I will say the scroll wheel felt cheap and fragile. Other than those issues, the mouse should have no problems lasting that long.

That being said, I feel like the Mionix would be a better choice, but the G400 isn't far behind for your needs. Logitech does have really good support so if it breaks they'll likely take care of you.
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I have the Naos 3200, it's incredibly comfortable (more than the DA). I use it primarily in FPS games, I keep it at the lowest DPI setting as well as low sensitivity. I have a palm-grip play-style, and I have fairly large hands.

LED lights change depending on the DPI profile you're using, and can be further customized if you install the Mionix software from their website.

People said it has a high LOD, but I didn't find that to be the case at all. I bought it off Newegg for around $30, and it came with the Mionix Sargas 320 mousepad which is pretty smooth to use.
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I have the Naos 3200, it's incredibly comfortable (more than the DA). I use it primarily in FPS games, I keep it at the lowest DPI setting as well as low sensitivity. I have a palm-grip play-style, and I have fairly large hands.

LED lights change depending on the DPI profile you're using, and can be further customized if you install the Mionix software from their website.

People said it has a high LOD, but I didn't find that to be the case at all. I bought it off Newegg for around $30, and it came with the Mionix Sargas 320 mousepad which is pretty smooth to use.

Does the DPI only go down to 800?
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Does the DPI only go down to 800?
Yes.
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Yes.

The 3200 only goes down to 800 dpi? Well I'll be damned. The Naos 5000 goes all the way down to 90 dpi (absolutely love it for photo/video editing).
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Naos has anglesnapping issues and the G400 isn't very durable (the cord breaks fast, especially if you use a low sensitivity) and won't be a very comfortable shape if you're trying to hold it the same way as an IME 3.0 or a deathadder

the zowie EC1/EC2 evo is fine, like a durable IME/deathadder but its dpi step is 500
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Naos has anglesnapping issues and the G400 isn't very durable (the cord breaks fast, especially if you use a low sensitivity) and won't be a very comfortable shape if you're trying to hold it the same way as an IME 3.0 or a deathadder

the zowie EC1/EC2 evo is fine, like a durable IME/deathadder but its dpi step is 500

I always heard great things about MX518 durability, and I would think the G400s has it too since it is basically an upgraded MX518, but maybe not.

I am aware the G400s has a weak cord that can break the mouse if you accidentally tug it hard and such. That can happen quite a bit with my setup, so I might just get a Deathadder 4g and hope it has better durability than a toy this time.

Anything bad to say about Ikari Optical?
Edited by Draulius - 7/28/13 at 4:37am
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