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240 rad. 360 rad. 2x240 rad?

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I have decided to jump into the world of custom water cooling. I am going to start off with an XSPC kit, but now I am having the debate of what size rad to get.

I originally was going to get the 360 rad and mount it externally some where (dont want to mod my case to put it inside) but now I am thinking of getting a 240 so I can put it inside the case.
My friend bought up a good point that I could always add a second 240 later on if I decide to add a gpu loop too it, but that would make my case very cramped having 2 rads.

I just can't decide which one! lol, I want some more input to help me decide already so I can put this puppy in. 1 second I think I have made my mind and ready to order it then I will think, nah maybe the 240 but the 360 will have more cooling space.

Another thought is, I have heard using food coloring is bad for build up and stuff inside the loop. I was going to use distilled water with the biocide the kit comes with, and color that with food coloring, should I buy a mix instead thats colored?

Second, instead of the plastic hose clamps I was planning on using the metal screw hose clamps that you tend to use on car hoses to get a better/tighter fit?
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You're pretty much always going to get better performance with more rads but it sounds like there are other factors at play (as is pretty typical when planning a loop), so just flip a coin if you can't decide! I personally hate the way external rads look so it would be an easy choice for me (mod the case thumb.gifbiggrin.gif).

Dyes: artificial food colors are very likely going to gunk up; natural food colors are going to gunk up plus provide food for microbes. So don't use them. I've never dyed my coolant, but there are many threads here about what people prefer to use so a few searches should yield some info. Mayhem's dyes seem popular, or there are a number of brands of pre-mixed colored coolants sold if you want to go that way.

Common hose clamps will work fine, but an even cheaper (and in my opinion, more attractive) option is zip ties. Use two per fitting and make sure you get them tight.
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You're pretty much always going to get better performance with more rads but it sounds like there are other factors at play (as is pretty typical when planning a loop), so just flip a coin if you can't decide! I personally hate the way external rads look so it would be an easy choice for me (mod the case thumb.gifbiggrin.gif).

Dyes: artificial food colors are very likely going to gunk up; natural food colors are going to gunk up plus provide food for microbes. So don't use them. I've never dyed my coolant, but there are many threads here about what people prefer to use so a few searches should yield some info. Mayhem's dyes seem popular, or there are a number of brands of pre-mixed colored coolants sold if you want to go that way.

Common hose clamps will work fine, but an even cheaper (and in my opinion, more attractive) option is zip ties. Use two per fitting and make sure you get them tight.

I never thought of using zip ties for clamps, ima go to lowes and see how much those metal screw clamps are i think there only about a dollar if i remember correct.

I would buy colored hosing so I dont have to buy coloring, but the kit comes with clear hosing and I dont really wanna spend another 20 on just some tubing. I have seen some videos with a shampoo like fluid I couldnt see what it was though. I will take a look at Mayhems dyes, I definitely dont want to put food coloring in if it will gunk up not worth it I would rather have clear water.

Maybe i will just put some red kool aid in the fluid jkkkkk lol
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You're pretty much always going to get better performance with more rads but it sounds like there are other factors at play (as is pretty typical when planning a loop), so just flip a coin if you can't decide! I personally hate the way external rads look so it would be an easy choice for me (mod the case thumb.gifbiggrin.gif).

Dyes: artificial food colors are very likely going to gunk up; natural food colors are going to gunk up plus provide food for microbes. So don't use them. I've never dyed my coolant, but there are many threads here about what people prefer to use so a few searches should yield some info. Mayhem's dyes seem popular, or there are a number of brands of pre-mixed colored coolants sold if you want to go that way.

Common hose clamps will work fine, but an even cheaper (and in my opinion, more attractive) option is zip ties. Use two per fitting and make sure you get them tight.

I never thought of using zip ties for clamps, ima go to lowes and see how much those metal screw clamps are i think there only about a dollar if i remember correct.

I would buy colored hosing so I dont have to buy coloring, but the kit comes with clear hosing and I dont really wanna spend another 20 on just some tubing. I have seen some videos with a shampoo like fluid I couldnt see what it was though. I will take a look at Mayhems dyes, I definitely dont want to put food coloring in if it will gunk up not worth it I would rather have clear water.

Maybe i will just put some red kool aid in the fluid jkkkkk lol
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