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post #31 of 51
So its been report on several outlets, that Kaveri is confirmed to be for 2014 q2 release, that means that a minimum of q4 release of FX steamroller, wouldn't be surprised it they slipped into 2015. That a lonnnnnnng time to hold onto my 8320. Can AMD every stick to a release schedule, ever. I need to see the desktop roadmap!! I
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As a gamer, I just realized that HSA will do almost nothing for us. HSA features united memory address, which means lower latency for iGPU, but that won't benefit dedicated GPUs until EX.

Having the iGPU to do compute for the CPU won't increase any fps, and everyday programs / apps I use already run smoothly on the CPU alone.

Maybe HSA APUs are aimed at schools, governments, and large coorperations who needs to photoshop / render / compute on a limited budget.

A well optimized software could run on an A10 as well as an i7, in the most ideal situation.

Essentially AMD is attempting to undercut Intel's CPU advantage through GPU computing.

"So your CPU cores are 20% faster? A shame that they're not going to match my GCN cores."

There's a reason why software rendering mode doesn't exist anymore for almost all new games.
post #33 of 51
Seems odd, Kaveri Q2'14 and its update Q3-Q4'14. Only 1 or 2 quarters of Kaveri?
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noob question - will ddr4 require a new mobo or something?
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post #35 of 51
The Kaveri successor Will be launched in 2015.
post #36 of 51
I would say yes in most cases, but I do remember seeing board supporting DDR2 and 3 back in that transitional time.
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some noob questions, will ddr4 require new mobo or something?

can I pair APU-s with regular GPUs? like 7950 and play BF4 with A10 on FM2 plus socket

Yes it will. That's why we expect DDR4 to coincide with the release of socket AM4. Plus the DDR4 memory sticks will have a different interface so that they are not compatible with DDR3 motherboards. AMD can however make their CPU's compatible with both DDR3 and DDR4 like what they did with their Athlon II's and Phenom II's where they put both DDR2 and DDR3 memory controllers in the CPU's.

Yes you can pair APU's with any dedicated GPU like you can with any regular CPU. When it detects a dedicated GPU (that isn't a 6670) it will shut down the integrated graphics and run off the dedicated GPU.

Really I'm just hoping for GDDR5 memory sticks by the time Kaveri rolls out. Otherwise they may use GDDR5 soldered in mobile devices or all-in-ones or one of those mini-ITX motherboards with the CPU and memory soldered on.

As for the FX processors AMD doesn't really seem to care any more. They may just axe it off entirely before we even get to Steamroller.
post #38 of 51
I guess this is slightly good news. AMD's weakness in platform is in not having PCI-E 3, as well as other things I can't remember right now.
Are they saving Steamroller on desktop until they have a smaller process node available?
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It's been obvious for quite a while what AMD"s goals are. They want HUMA and HSA to take off as their CPU's will achieve terraflop performance at a relatively cheap price.

Right now HSA has no benefit to gamers, but if HSA becomes a standard then we will see HSA crushing Intel in most, if not all applications. Then Intel will have to step up their anti-competitiveness with decoders and other methods to reduce the viability of AMD.

This is speculation but this is what AMD are aiming at however a thousand slightly slower cores can do a lot more work in HPC environments than a handful of very fast ones, which is has been proven over and over again and why Intel released Xeon Phi.
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I guess this is slightly good news. AMD's weakness in platform is in not having PCI-E 3, as well as other things I can't remember right now.
Are they saving Steamroller on desktop until they have a smaller process node available?

Can you tell me how much improvement you get going form PCI-E 2 to 3 in gaming and computing.
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