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thats what you get for not doing your research - i woulda got a E6300, a nice mobo, some DDR2 RAM and a 7900GTX, much more balanced and would probably be faster than your PC, even with its 8800GTSprobably - what PSU do you have?you cant express the bottleneck in %, but your CPU will hold it back soooo much.

You would NEED a Conroe, probably a E6600 to completely remove the bottleneck
Yup, the biggest baddest G80 will still run like garbage on a setup that isn't up to the task, you should have done some more research before grabbing an 8800GTS..
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It will run fine, and it will push your system to the limits (which is a good thing). And don't worry about the bottleneck effect, because there is always a bottle neck in your PC somewhere. Yours just happens to be in the CPU and RAM area.
Thx really nice say...rep+ for you..and well you asked about my psu now why not look at my computer specs?
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It will run fine, and it will push your system to the limits (which is a good thing). And don't worry about the bottleneck effect, because there is always a bottle neck in your PC somewhere. Yours just happens to be in the CPU and RAM area.
However, the bottleneck is substantial (which it is here) and will be pretty much "wasting" the card. If anything, sell the card and get a X1950 or 7950GT. With the extra money, upgrade your current processor. Performance should greatly increase. They only major loss would be DX10 capabilities. However, most DX10 capable games will support multi-core processors and you current CPU would be even more of a bottleneck.
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It will run fine, and it will push your system to the limits (which is a good thing). And don't worry about the bottleneck effect, because there is always a bottle neck in your PC somewhere. Yours just happens to be in the CPU and RAM area.
"dont worry, you just wasted money on a card with waay more performance you can't use, and that had you have bought a 7950GX2, or a 7900GTX, heck, even a 7900GS or a 7600GT you would STILL get the same FPS because your crap RAM, and not-to-good CPU will limit it"
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Thx really nice say...rep+ for you..and well you asked about my psu now why not look look at my computer specs?
it may be really nice, but he's COMPLETELY wrong - please, if you can cancel your order, you are just wasting your money

Your PSU is listed in your specs as a CoolerMaster 650w, which sounds like it might just take the 8800GTS
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Wow. I can't believe I'm hearing some of this stuff.

#1. Yes, his CPU will bottleneck his card. But to say that it will run like garbage is almost a flat out lie. He still has a strong CPU (a bit dated but still strong) and a new kickass video card. You guys act like its going to perform worse than his previous card, which it most certainly will not.

#2. To say he is wasting the card is another BS comment. Will the card be used to its full potential. Probably not. Will it improve the total performance of his system. YES. And now, when he upgrades or gets a new PC down the road, he has an excellent DX10 card to throw in it right away.

#3. Not everyone has 1000s of dollars wait patiently in banks to blow on upgrades. Just because you upgrade 1 component doesn't mean you have to immediately upgrade everything else to match it. If anything doing it a bit at a time is the smart way, IMO.

Anyways, don't knock the guys system just cuz he doesn't have the latest and greatest. I think that card is a wise investment, esp if his last card was sub-par.

/rant end

PS, if you don't mind telling, what video card are you upgrading from?
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#2. To say he is wasting the card is another BS comment. Will the card be used to its full potential. Probably not. Will it improve the total performance of his system. YES. And now, when he upgrades or gets a new PC down the road, he has an excellent DX10 card to throw in it right away.
but it IS being wasted - he would get the same performance from a 7900GTX, and he would save money by doing that - he could then go and upgrade to a better CPU or get better RAM
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3. Not everyone has 1000s of dollars wait patiently in banks to blow on upgrades. Just because you upgrade 1 component doesn't mean you have to immediately upgrade everything else to match it. If anything doing it a bit at a time is the smart way, IMO.
With the money he's blown on the 8800GTS, he could of bought a very well balanced system - just without a GTS, its a GREAT card and i'd kill for one, but i'd be better off getting a quicker CPU and a quicker graphics card.
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Wow. I can't believe I'm hearing some of this stuff.

#1. Yes, his CPU will bottleneck his card. But to say that it will run like garbage is almost a flat out lie. He still has a strong CPU (a bit dated but still strong) and a new kickass video card. You guys act like its going to perform worse than his previous card, which it most certainly will not.

#2. To say he is wasting the card is another BS comment. Will the card be used to its full potential. Probably not. Will it improve the total performance of his system. YES. And now, when he upgrades or gets a new PC down the road, he has an excellent DX10 card to throw in it right away.

#3. Not everyone has 1000s of dollars wait patiently in banks to blow on upgrades. Just because you upgrade 1 component doesn't mean you have to immediately upgrade everything else to match it. If anything doing it a bit at a time is the smart way, IMO.

Anyways, don't knock the guys system just cuz he doesn't have the latest and greatest. I think that card is a wise investment, esp if his last card was sub-par.

/rant end

PS, if you don't mind telling, what video card are you upgrading from?

His CPU will bottleneck a 7950GTO. With that in mind, that means he probably "waste" 50% of the 8800GTS performance. That's about $200 worth of card that's not in use. Like I said... get a X1950 or 7900GTO and upgrade the processor instead. OR just get a cheap 7900GS for now. Save the money and do an overhaul next year. These two options make much more sense than wasting $200 worth of performance until one day being able to use it.
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His CPU will bottleneck a 7950GTO. With that in mind, that means he probably "waste" 50% of the 8800GTS performance. That's about $200 worth of card that's not in use. Like I said... get a X1950 or 7900GTO and upgrade the processor instead. OR just get a cheap 7900GS for now. Save the money and do an overhaul next year. These two options make much more sense than wasting $200 worth of performance until one day being able to use it.
Yes! I'd upgrade the mobo/cpu/ram and then get a 7900GS and OC it, they way you will get much better overall performance and get nearly as good gaming performance, step up (or sell) from the 7900 to an 8 series and you've got a kickass system, not just an overkill card.
post #40 of 49
Clearly your missed my point and/or we very different views on what constitutes a 'good upgrade' and a 'bad upgrade'. IMO, right now, buying a new system as you say (ie. Core2 Duo + DDR2 RAM + Mobo + Geforce 7xxx card) is a terrible idea. I have told everybody that I know to wait 6 months from now to upgrade if they can. Why?

1. The system I stated above would cost 800 to 1000, minimum. Oh ya, and even that doesn't buy him DX10 capability. The card he got cost him ~400. Seems like a deal to me.

2. The PC market right now is extremely volatile and changes from day to day almost. With Vista coming out, most companies are jacking up prices to take advantage of everyone trying to upgrade to be 'Vista Capable'. That means the consumer gets shafted for the most part, in case I'm not being clear.

3. He can still upgrade to a C2D later! Just because he didn't do it right now, doesn't mean that hes never going to upgrade. As he said, he 14. That likely means no job and under the watch of parents, and parents don't always like to replace half of their kids computer every few months.

4. You probably missed this in his first few posts, but hes getting this card as a GIFT. He probably picked it out, but in my experience, its easier to ask for 1 bigger gift from mom and dad ($400) than 4 smaller gifts at $100 a piece. Don't know why, just is.

I think he made a good choice. Maybe its not what YOU would do, but that doesn't make it a bad decision. I do agree that he should upgrade his CPU, RAM and Mobo, but he should do it when he wants to, not when some random people on the internet tell him to.
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