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Let me explain... I recently bought a Monoprice cherry blue mechanical keyboard. I wanted to try out the blues for typing at work (network admin / programming). The price was incredible, about $42 on sale and little over $50 with shipping. The keyboard is pretty decent and I do like the feel of the cherry blues for typing. The click and tactile feedback is great.

However, I knew that I would "get what I paid for" with a mechanical keyboard that only cost less than fifty bucks. The Monoprice board is kinda flimsy for a mechanical keyboard and the bezel is a bit thicker than I would have liked. So I started looking at some other cherry blue keyboards and I was playing with a Razor BW at the store the other day. Stangely, the cherry blues on the Razor felt quite different than the Monprice board. They almost felt as if they were a little less resistant, easier to press down... "smoother" I would say is the right word. I liked this feeling. Even though both boards have cherry blues, the Razor "felt" better... not as choppy as the Monoprice and easier to type on.

Am I crazy, or can the switches feel that much different depending upon how they are mounted and such? I know a lot of manufacturers use "steel" plates to mount the switches instead of the obvious plastic plate on this Monoprice board, could that make a difference in how the switches feel? Another possiblity could be that the switches themselves were different... maybe they were made in different batches and the manufacturing process had changed a little bit from one batch to the next?
Edited by mrrsn83 - 7/29/13 at 5:54am
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I've been wondering the same recently. I've had a Filco with MX blues at home for years now, and I love the way it feels. Was given a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate to use at work and found it required noticeably more effort to press the keys down past the bump. I thought it was all just in my head.
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I think a lot of this has to do with the case and the key caps, mainly the key caps. I have a Das Keyboard at work, and the Razer Ultimate at home, both MX Blues but they feel very different. I took the caps off of both of them and the weight and design of the travel is drastically different, this may attribute to it.
 
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God makes them all equal.
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My understanding is that the switches are all manufactured to Cherry's specifications and should all be equal. The variation is due to, as others have mentioned, the other components of the keyboard. Keycaps, key spacing, etc all contribute to the "typing experience."

Suffice to say, you definitely aren't imagining it when two of the same switches can feel different.
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