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So I parted out my 1st build log here, it was assembled, run for 6 months but was never completed.
It was just too much hardware and a little unnecessary for my purposes.
The Case Labs M8 is still around so maybe I can make something of it at a later date (server? folding box?).

Moving on... I wanted a smaller computer that could game at 1600p, render/3D model decently and do image processing.
Most importantly, my goals were a SMALL FOOTPRINT and for a the case to fit a specific location in my room.
Always had a thing for small Lian-Li cases, so I searched locally for a cheap one and found a Q11 in silver and new in box.
I decided to keep it simple, do some light modding to allow for watercooling and leave the option to go back to a stock case.






Went to my old university and "borrowed" some material and some of a friend's laser cutting time.
Here is a sidepanel with stock backplate.


New backplate, now you can predict where the radiators will go.






Some hardware arrived, tested, everything works!
Didn't go with Haswell... bought a bunch of new/used Z77 stuff for much cheaper!




NEW IDEA



I bought a GTX670 as the graphics card but I was worried I would want to upgrade, 10.5" PCB graphic cards would not fit...
So the mod went in a more drastic direction...

Cannibalized backplate and hard drive cage from a failed PC-A05B mod attempt many years ago.




Now there is no turning back...
Bought my first Bosch jigsaw to do this, along with my Dremel and some files.
Used a small toolbox and garbage cans as my workbench.






Bent the frame while cutting the case, tried to bend it back and pretty much collapsed the frame.
Luckily it was still connected, OOPS biggrin.gif


Hardware mock-up.
Now a big graphics card can fit! rolleyes.gif
Going to cut some new acrylic panels to show off the hardware inside.
1 radiator on top and 1 on the stock front panel location.






I really wanted 2 SSDs and 2 HDDs to fit in this mod but it seems some revision will be needed.
I can locate the HDD cage horizontal under the graphics card once the air cooler is gone, which will work if i stick with the GTX670 since the PCB is so short.
If I want a long graphics card, I can probably only keep 1 HDD or take them out completely.






Still haven't made a watercooling order yet, I really need radiators to mock up but here is a possible reservoir mounting location, of course a shorter one.


Till next time!
Edited by lootbag - 7/29/13 at 9:04am
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thumb.gif Looking great! Can't wait 'til the next update! :D

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Not a very interesting update but I am just thinking out loud.

The GTX670 with the waterblock is so puny.
I want a GTX780... but I am trying very hard to tell myself that I do not have the $900 for the card and block nor do I need to spend it.
frown.gif


Another item I found in my PC-A05B parts bin...


...it will make a good power supply bracket! biggrin.gif


Will have to keep the stock power and reset buttons.


Not much space for a vandal switch... unless I relocate the switches, which I could do.


More from the A05B parts bin... AC power cable for power plug relocation to the top panel.


So much space a D5 will fit.


Easy access to adjust the pump speed.


Abundance of space in front of the pump for a reservoir and (SPOILER 2) more components.


Possible reservoir placement #1 with pump behind.
The D5 will be in the way of a full size graphics card so I plan to use a MCP35X, which fits well in the gap between the graphics card and PSU.


Possible reservoir placement #2 but a 40mm reservoir will be used because the waterblock inlet/outlets are in the way.
In this case, I would just attach the reservoir to a fillport on the top panel and link it to the pump on the bottom of the case.




Still didn't make my watercooling order yet, always afraid I will forget something

Bad news about laser cutter at the university, seems the academic year is done and I may not have access to it till September... need to find out! If it is the case, I will have to find alternate means for laser cutting... have to pay for materials and laser time X_X, university was free!
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One of my orders arrived and I was able to get a small bit of work done.

Never used one of these before... should be interesting.


40mm reservoir tube... it is a little small and will probably be a nightmare to bleed air.
Pretty much just bought as a backup.


80mm seems to be the perfect size for this build.


Went with XT45s.. I thought they were a good balance of thickness and FPI.


Does this warrant a RMA?
These radiators are a big step down from the Aquacomputers in terms of physical quality.
One of the M3 threads are unusable (can't screw the bolt in)
Numerous paint imperfections...


This is where I am at in terms of deciding where parts will go.
Will have to rig up a SSD mount to fit them somewhere.
(Excuse the fingerprints)
:dunno:


Floating reservoir and pump!


Still waiting for my Aquaero to arrive but it will be placed vertically above the flow meter.
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Another order arrived today.
Most of the parts are here but I will probably have to make 1 more for missing miscellaneous items... and probably RMA something.

Going to reuse a SSD mount from the CaseLabs case.
There is a bit of clearance left between the SSD mount and PSU for a long graphics card.
A 3.5" HDD can fit above the SSD mount as well.
However, mounting all these drives along the back panel means it cannot be a big window to show off the graphics card anymore... small ITX builds definitely have many tradeoffs.


Flow meter placement.
I am trying to cut down on as many fittings used and tubing used as I can.


Opened up the CPU block to change the jet plate and found this... darn bent fins.
SIGH, going to exchange this and hopefully get a replacement.
More delays, I was really hoping to get a lot done this coming weekend.
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Warranty (not) voided?


My first Noiseblocker fan, it is supposed to be a lot quieter...


... than this stock fan (people said it was louder, but I did not expect it to be so loud!).


My little workstation in the garage... on top of a stack of tires.
I wish I had a big workbench!
Maybe when I have my own home.


Connectors soldered and naked.


Sleeved and ready to go.
Tested the PSU with athe cheap tester, much quieter!


Went out to the backyard to do the next piece of work.


I think hole saws work much better with a drill press, it is so difficult to get even pressure with the hand drill.
Ended up cutting about 3/4 through the aluminum used the jigsaw to cut out the hole and then filed down the edges.
Turned out ok I think but needs more sanding.


Lastly, I share with you my very populated standing worktable in my room.

Edited by lootbag - 7/29/13 at 11:24am
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Managed to make some time to work on the build this weekend.
Did not really progress much.

Not sure if I really like this, looks a little awkward with the quick disconnects sticking out so much.


AC plug relocation to the top panel as well.


Underneath


Underneath.. must sleeve it!


Now this has been occupying me for a long time today.
Here you get an idea of the loop order: Reservoir, Pump, Bottom Rad, Aquaero block, GPU block, (Parallel connection to external rads), CPU block, Flow meter, Top Rad, Reservoir.

However, I am struggling with bleeding the loop.
After 3 attempts with distilled water, I have had no luck properly bleeding the bubbles.
I manage to fill the loop up but the MCP35X at 100% of the time (whenever the PWM is not connected) is making more bubbles because of the flow that it is generating, so it is a never ending cycle of bubbles.
The short 80mm reservoir is not helping either, makes it much easier for bubbles to be sucked back in.

So at the moment, I am stuck.
Does anyone have tips?
I guess the best way would be to slow down the MCP35X pump by hooking it up to another computer?



Had to add the colour effect to the photo because I felt like turning into the hulk and smashing the computer throughout the day trying to figure this out
Small form factor cases are definitely much harder to work in
Many leaks to clean up too
Edited by lootbag - 7/29/13 at 11:23am
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Since I have a weakness for compact powerhouse builds (despite my own rigs currently being rather large biggrin.gif ),
I shall keep an eye on this. thumb.gif
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This build is awesome. Keep it up!
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Very interesting, I likes how you make it happen. Too bad about the rads and block - awful shellacking you are taking, in the faulty product deportment.
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