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New build, anything you would change/add? Pay the extra $21 for the 4670k over the 3570k?

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Hello all, wasn't really sure which section to post this question but here goes.

Moving to America and just sold my i5 2500k @4.4ghz and asus top gtx 670 build. Looking for a similar build with a bit of an upgrade here and there. I figured that I will buy all the best parts I want but get place holders for the monitor and GPU as those are always the most expensive parts. Then upgrade both of them around Christmas. As I am going to be a bit broke after buying my flight and new clothes and these parts.

So here goes, the list of parts I have chosen.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-Extreme-Performance-H100i/dp/B009ZN2NH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375116805&sr=8-1&keywords=h100i
- It was between that or the h110 or the kracken x60 though from looking around most people were saying to go with the h100i.

http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Phantom-Tower-Gaming-Case/dp/B006I2H04I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1374972986&sr=8-2&keywords=phantom+410
- Always wanted to build in this since I first saw it, Not sure about it though. As I am looking for good cable management space and airflow. So if there are any better cases within the price range don't hesitate to point me in the right direction.

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Builder/dp/B004Q0PT3I/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1374695102&sr=8-6&keywords=windows+8
- I am not sure I like the look of the UI with windows 8, so I will probably just stick with windows 7, unless there are any advantages in the foreseeable future using windows 8 for gaming?

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Platforms-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374695008&sr=8-1&keywords=8gb
- Seems to be the obvious go to 8gb 1600mhz choice these days.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Enthusiast-Series-Modular-TX850M/dp/B005E98EI2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1374694946&sr=8-2&keywords=850w
- Obvious go to 850w choice for a decent price.

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VS239H-P-23-Inch-Full-HD-Monitor/dp/B008DWITHI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375114759&sr=8-1&keywords=ips
-Seems to be the best monitor for that price range, I was using the Benq 120hz 24 inch monitor with my build that I just sold, so this will be a bit of a downgrade in size and refresh rate. Though I HATED the colours and the viewing angles of the Benq, so this Ips-e will have it beat on that. I will use it till about Christmas then upgrade to a korean 1440p monitor. Unless anyone can recommend a better monitor in the same price range to use for a few months?

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-7TD250BW-Series-Solid-2-5-Inch/dp/B009NHAEXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375116970&sr=8-1&keywords=240gb+ssd
All the space I will need for just now, no idea about how reliable etc it is. Can anyone chime in on that?

Ok so here is the choice:

The i5 3570k is $220
The msi gaming motherboard for ivy bridge is $139

The i5 4670k is $235
The msi gaming motherboard for haswell is $145.

Is it worth the extra $21 to have the newest socket when they are so similar in performance?

The two Motherboards.

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-Z87-GD45-GAMING/dp/B00D12OBEU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1375112946&sr=8-4&keywords=Z87
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-Z77A-G45-GAMING/dp/B00CBFPZDO/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1374694708&sr=8-21&keywords=Z77

Exactly the same right?

Lastly, I am trying to decide which placeholder GPU would be the best to hold me till Christmas. I am thinking the superclocked gtx 660 would be the best for the price.
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-2662-KR/dp/B00966IREK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375121379&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+660

It would be an obvious donwgrade from my oc'ed 670, though it is only temporary and I am only running at 60hz now instead of 120hz.. Any other cards you would recommend at around the $200 mark?

Sorry, I know alot of questions. Though need the help, as I am ordering all this tomorrow.
Thank you.
post #2 of 6
A few thoughts:

For an extra $21 - the cost of a decent bottle of wine - why wouldn't you get the latest technology? A 3570k will be fine, but Haswell is still an improvement (if minor) - I'd get the 4670k.

Same thing with Windows 8. If you already had Windows 7, then there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. But for a new machine, why not get the latest? I recently put together a new pc and debated whether to go with Windows 7 or 8 and decided to go with 8. I'm glad I did. While there are a couple of minor (and I mean very minor) annoyances, it is generally much faster and more responsive than Windows 7. I now actually like the UI on 8 more than 7.

For the power suppy, unless you plan on adding a second card, you could use a 650w psu with no issues. I'd suggest a Seasonic X series or Corsair AX series 650 or 750w which are very good and very quiet, or at a cheaper price a Seasonic M12Dii 620w, which is also reliable and quiet..
post #3 of 6
You dont need a an 850 watts PSU

A 550 watts cam cover a system like fine you dont need more then that

http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-CAPSTONE-Series-Certified-CAPSTONE-550-M/dp/B008BUST0O/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1375140687&sr=8-6&keywords=rosewill+capstone

Last dont waste time with the Seasonic and Corsair units they are overpriced
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Oh I am sorry It has taken this long to get back to the thread, after a few hours I had given up with no replies and abandoned the thread =p

I am going with the haswell i5(would be silly not to for the price difference), and I am going with the msi gtx 760. The reason I chose the 850w psu, is because I am planning on sli'ng two gtx 760's and hopefully overclocking them, will probably add a few more ssd''s in the future etc. Would I still get away with 550w with all that?
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Oh I am sorry It has taken this long to get back to the thread, after a few hours I had given up with no replies and abandoned the thread =p

I am going with the haswell i5(would be silly not to for the price difference), and I am going with the msi gtx 760. The reason I chose the 850w psu, is because I am planning on sli'ng two gtx 760's and hopefully overclocking them, will probably add a few more ssd''s in the future etc. Would I still get away with 550w with all that?

750 watts is more then power for two cards and 550 is more then enough for one
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Oh I am sorry It has taken this long to get back to the thread, after a few hours I had given up with no replies and abandoned the thread =p

I am going with the haswell i5(would be silly not to for the price difference), and I am going with the msi gtx 760. The reason I chose the 850w psu, is because I am planning on sli'ng two gtx 760's and hopefully overclocking them, will probably add a few more ssd''s in the future etc. Would I still get away with 550w with all that?

Hey man, good choices. I am sure you will be happy with the performance you get. Planning ahead for an extra 760 is probably a good idea. I was in the same boat as you a few months ago but I decided to get a single 770 (EVGA SC ACX). I prefer to run a single card for as long as I can and the 770 is plenty of power to run the majority of the latest games on a single monitor at ultra settings. The 760 is just a step below it, and for the asking price you can't go wrong.

I also decided on the i5 4670K, and I got pretty lucky with the silicon lottery. Just be aware that all unlocked chips are not created equal and some will OC with little voltage and others will require much more to achieve the same OC. I have mine at 4.6 GHz @1.218V, but I have gone as high as 4.8 (although stability becomes much harder to maintain after 4.6). But keep in mind that is an above average chip and most need 1.250V and up for 4.5-4.6. It is a fast chip if you can deal with the extra heat so get a decent cooler. I have an H100i and it has allowed me plenty of OC headroom. Good luck with the build...
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