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Hello!

As the title says, i need some help clocking my CPU,

I've never actually clocked a CPU before so im gonna need some help..

This is my computer specs:


AMD Athlon II X3 450
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit SP1 (Build 7601)
CPU Arch : 1 CPU - 3 Cores - 3 Threads
CPU PSN : AMD Athlon II X3 450 Processor
CPU EXT : MMX(+), 3DNow!(+), SSE (1, 2, 3, 4A), x86-64, AMD-V
CPUID : F.5.3 / Extended : 10.5
CPU Cache : L1 : 3 x 64 / 3 x 64 KB - L2 : 3 x 512 KB
Core : Rana (45 nm) / Stepping : BL-C3
Freq : 2008.93 MHz (200.89 * 10)
MB Brand : Asus
MB Model : M4A78LT-M-LE
NB : AMD 780G rev 00
SB : AMD SB700 rev 00
GPU Type : Radeon HD 5670
GPU Clocks : Core 156 MHz / RAM 99 MHz
DirectX Version : 11.0
RAM : 6144 MB DDR3 Dual Channel
RAM Speed : 669.6 MHz (3:10) @ 9-9-9-24
Slot 1 : 4096MB (10700)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : Kingston
Slot 2 : 2048MB (10700)
Slot 2 Manufacturer : Kingston

i've got a 550W power source

( Used CPU Z to get all the info )

i guess, what i need to know is how i do this and how much i can clock the CPU.


Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 7
I would not do any overclocking until you get an aftermarket CPU cooler. I run an AMD CPU on my rig and I know that the stock cooler isn't enough to get any real overclock out of it. After you've gotten a good quality cooler and good case ventilation, I would download a CPU bench marking tool such as Prime95. After you have that, because you're a beginner to overclocking, I'd download a software CPU overclocking utility. Find out your CPUs maximum safe temp and shoot to be at least 5-10 Degrees Celsius below that at your max load. When overclocking, be sure that it is stable. When you start getting program crashes/blue screens, you have two choices. Either increase volts or decrease the overclock. If you decide to increase voltage, beware keep the voltage below 1.425v. Anything much higher than that can and will damage the CPU. Keep on bench marking and proceed carefully and you'll be just fine. Most professional overclockers do so via the BIOS, and the easiest way to overclock is to simply modify the multiplier, but this way you can get the absolute maximum you can without having to do anything in the BIOS, which is helpful if you're new to overclocking.

Have fun, and be sure to tell me about your results!

EDIT: Thank you logan for correcting me. I did say benchmarking, and it was incorrect.
Edited by KaplooeyRaRa - 7/31/13 at 1:35pm
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Howdy, welcome (both of you actually) to OCN. Its a great place to learn about a new hobby smile.gif.

I actually wrote an AM3 overclocking guide a while back. You can find the link in my signature, and that should get you started in the right direction.

The second thing is that I'd actually disagree with the comment that you should do all of your overclocking through some sort of software (even though you're a beginner). While OCin through software can be easier, in my experience so far its been less reliable, and more of a pain. Plus, getting into the BIOS might seem scary at first, but you'll get the hang of it in no time. Plus, you'll get a better understanding of what is going on.

And finally, while the advice about cooling is good (I'd check to see what current temps are first though before springing for a new cooler personally, as some level of overclocking is usually possible with stock cooling), I just want to point out some terminology.

Prime95 is an awesome tool. However, its a stress testing program, not a benchmarking program. Stress testing programs are programs that intentionally stress your components to their limits, with the intent that you'll find the weak point. Usually in overclocking this is done with the CPU in order to see if its stable. An unstable CPU can cause all sorts of problems (BSOD, corrupted installs, etc), so this is a really big part of overclocking.

Benchmarking tools on the other hand give you scores for your computers performance. They give you a BENCHMARK of performance. This way you can know how much faster your computer is after you overclock it. These are programs like Cinebench R11, 3dmark11, etc. They let you compare yourself to other computers as well, which is super handy when reading reviews on new CPU's as you can go run the benchmark yourself and see how your current rig does against the new hotness.

Anyway, give my guide a read through, and let us know if you have any questions smile.gif.
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Originally Posted by KaplooeyRaRa View Post

I would not do any overclocking until you get an aftermarket CPU cooler. I run an AMD CPU on my rig and I know that the stock cooler isn't enough to get any real overclock out of it. After you've gotten a good quality cooler and good case ventilation, I would download a CPU bench marking tool such as Prime95. After you have that, because you're a beginner to overclocking, I'd download a software CPU overclocking utility. Find out your CPUs maximum safe temp and shoot to be at least 5-10 Degrees Celsius below that at your max load. When overclocking, be sure that it is stable. When you start getting program crashes/blue screens, you have two choices. Either increase volts or decrease the overclock. If you decide to increase voltage, beware keep the voltage below 1.425v. Anything much higher than that can and will damage the CPU. Keep on bench marking and proceed carefully and you'll be just fine. Most professional overclockers do so via the BIOS, and the easiest way to overclock is to simply modify the multiplier, but this way you can get the absolute maximum you can without having to do anything in the BIOS, which is helpful if you're new to overclocking.

Have fun, and be sure to tell me about your results!

Thanks for the great info!

I'm gonna check out the temp and such before i make a decision about getting coolers etc.
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Originally Posted by logan View Post

Howdy, welcome (both of you actually) to OCN. Its a great place to learn about a new hobby smile.gif.

I actually wrote an AM3 overclocking guide a while back. You can find the link in my signature, and that should get you started in the right direction.

The second thing is that I'd actually disagree with the comment that you should do all of your overclocking through some sort of software (even though you're a beginner). While OCin through software can be easier, in my experience so far its been less reliable, and more of a pain. Plus, getting into the BIOS might seem scary at first, but you'll get the hang of it in no time. Plus, you'll get a better understanding of what is going on.

And finally, while the advice about cooling is good (I'd check to see what current temps are first though before springing for a new cooler personally, as some level of overclocking is usually possible with stock cooling), I just want to point out some terminology.

Prime95 is an awesome tool. However, its a stress testing program, not a benchmarking program. Stress testing programs are programs that intentionally stress your components to their limits, with the intent that you'll find the weak point. Usually in overclocking this is done with the CPU in order to see if its stable. An unstable CPU can cause all sorts of problems (BSOD, corrupted installs, etc), so this is a really big part of overclocking.

Benchmarking tools on the other hand give you scores for your computers performance. They give you a BENCHMARK of performance. This way you can know how much faster your computer is after you overclock it. These are programs like Cinebench R11, 3dmark11, etc. They let you compare yourself to other computers as well, which is super handy when reading reviews on new CPU's as you can go run the benchmark yourself and see how your current rig does against the new hotness.

Anyway, give my guide a read through, and let us know if you have any questions smile.gif.

Awesome! im going to check out your guide right away! smile.gif

Im actually used to configuring settings in the Bios but i didnt know that i clock my CPU through it. Thanks!


I'll be back with my results and let you know if i trashed my computer ;3
Edited by ImDeadz - 7/31/13 at 8:26am
post #5 of 7
Your motherboard is 3+1 phase only, it should be able to handle 3.5 Ghz with 3 cores on,
or just stock but with the 4th core unlock.

I say just choose one of those configs, because if you clock any higher, you might fry the vrms.
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post #6 of 7
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I changed the reference To 219x16 so its at 3.5-3.6 right now :-3 i did Also clocked My GPU and i got dots All over the screen sometimes.. I just removed the GPU clock thought since im not very good at that either.

Thanks for all the help! Love you all ;*<3
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Originally Posted by ImDeadz View Post

I changed the reference To 219x16 so its at 3.5-3.6 right now :-3 i did Also clocked My GPU and i got dots All over the screen sometimes.. I just removed the GPU clock thought since im not very good at that either.

Thanks for all the help! Love you all ;*<3

It seems your motherboard supports unlock.
I think its better to just keep the cpu stock, and unlock the 4th core. Have you tried this already?

Look for these options in the bios:
ACC (advanced clock calibration)
Unlock
Core Unlock


This guy has the same board and he managed to unlock his sempron to two cores, except the 2nd core was a dud
http://www.overclock.net/t/844080/sempron-asus-m4a78lt-m-le-unlock

Take note that unlocking the 4th core will drastically increase the cpu TDP, so if the Athlon X3 is 95W TDP, unlocking the 4th core will increase TDP to 105W or higher.
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