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Hi everyone,

I'm building a new rig that will be used 40%,40%,20%:Production, Gaming, Internet.

"Production" consists of using AutoDesk Inventor 2013, AutoCAD 2013, and VisualMill/CAM. In that priority. I don't render my designs very oftern, but sometimes do for presentation purposes. I don't create animations...yet... I normally design in Realistic or Conceptual views, and swap back to 2D at times. I import into VisualMill for the creation of the pathing/tooling routines and then export to CNC code.

I "Game" very simply. I play World of Warcraft and Starcraft 2. My existing setup can run WoW fairly easy at medium "good" settings, but Starcraft 2 makes my poor pc boil unless I turn down the graphics. I also play flash games online.

My internet usage is typical, facebook, wikipedia, forums, news, gmail... I'll occacionaly stream an episode of some series I may have missed.

So I guess the question is can I expect 2x greater performance from the 4930K, relative to the pricing, than that of the 4770K? Since the pricing of the 3770k:4770k was $20 I'm expecting the 4930K to be about $30-$50 to that of the 3930K for the same 10-15% performance increase. I don't believe that I would benefit from the 4930k for what I'll be doing with the programs I will be using.

As I understand, Inventor and AutoCAD are rare CAD apps that use DirectX, making usage of gaming cards realistic as shown in "tom's hardware 2013 workstation graphics cards." Inventor and Autocad are still single thread applications except under specific conditions. I don't know much about VisualMill's cpu vs gpu usage, but since most of my time is spent in Autodesk apps, it's of little concern.

Also, I understand that both Blizzard games that I play are CPU intensive (maybe not WoW so much), leveraging the speed of the CPU vs the actual cores, making the IB cpu's like the 3750 and 3770 better for gaming.

I have a wish list that I would appreciate if you guys gave a look at and confirmed my perspective.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.97 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.SNIPER 5 EATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($389.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($136.98 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($136.98 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($472.12 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($197.98 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2203.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-30 18:59 EDT-0400)
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So I guess the question is can I expect 2x greater performance from the 4930K, relative to the pricing, than that of the 4770K?

No
 
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The Cooler Master V850 is a better pick for a PSU then the AX860

Its the same PSU the V is just cheaper
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Save some dough and go with a 3770k
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No

As expected...
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The Cooler Master V850 is a better pick for a PSU then the AX860

Its the same PSU the V is just cheaper

Good call...!
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The 4770K will be better suited for your needs.
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I use Autocad on a daily basis both 2D and 3D. Once drawings are created, they are usually rendered to create a more realistic object. The more CPU power, the better in this type application. In no way can a 4770K approach even a I7-980X or zeon westmere x5650 caliber processor. The 3930K or the new 4930k will smoke a 4770K processor in these apps.

As a leisure application, The 3930K will game as well as a 4770K even though the Haswell series has better single threaded performance. Just for gaming applications, I would not recommend a hexacore processor due to the price differential. I would probably go with a 2500K,3570k, or 4670k in this role. In raw performance, the hexacore will much better handle all of Autodesks and Solidworks applications
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I use Autocad on a daily basis both 2D and 3D. Once drawings are created, they are usually rendered to create a more realistic object. The more CPU power, the better in this type application. In no way can a 4770K approach even a I7-980X or zeon westmere x5650 caliber processor. The 3930K or the new 4930k will smoke a 4770K processor in these apps.

As a leisure application, The 3930K will game as well as a 4770K even though the Haswell series has better single threaded performance. Just for gaming applications, I would not recommend a hexacore processor due to the price differential. I would probably go with a 2500K,3570k, or 4670k in this role. In raw performance, the hexacore will much better handle all of Autodesks and Solidworks applications

Hhhmmmmm... I wish I could try these out personally before purchase... Once again doubt plagues me... I can wait until September to get a better idea... I'm expecting 4930k at about $600.

Ty for your feedback, ElectronEng.
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I use Autocad on a daily basis both 2D and 3D. Once drawings are created, they are usually rendered to create a more realistic object. The more CPU power, the better in this type application. In no way can a 4770K approach even a I7-980X or zeon westmere x5650 caliber processor. The 3930K or the new 4930k will smoke a 4770K processor in these apps.

As a leisure application, The 3930K will game as well as a 4770K even though the Haswell series has better single threaded performance. Just for gaming applications, I would not recommend a hexacore processor due to the price differential. I would probably go with a 2500K,3570k, or 4670k in this role. In raw performance, the hexacore will much better handle all of Autodesks and Solidworks applications

Autocad also supports openCL and cuda which will be better than any cpu anyways, kind of moot.

A 3930k/4930k will certainly be better, but not 2x better.
 
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