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I'll guess i'll wait for Haswell-E sad-smiley-002.gif
Edited by King Lycan - 7/31/13 at 9:18am
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Can't even open the link thanks to my job and Barracuda. At any rate, I'm not trying to directly compare the 9590 to the 4770 or even the 3770 at this point. As far as performance goes, Intel is still the champion but as I said before, I see it as an indicator that AMD may be trying to get serious about high-end CPU's. Honestly, I see the 9590 as mostly a marketing ploy but at the same time It's still fast enough to be considered high-end as far as I'm concerned. I think with all the advances that Intel has made people tend to just act as if AMD isn't even relevant anymore, which to some degree is somewhat accurate. But, I don't think AMD would release the 9590 as an end-all, be-all to what AMD is capable of. Again, I think it's more of a "We're not done yet" type of thing. But I'm sorry if my inclusion of the AMD chip in "high-end" category was offensive to anyone and would like to withdraw it from the topic from this post forward.
My mistake, I had read an article about someone getting it pre-release for benchmarking a couple weeks ago not realizing that it actually came out that following week....so it's been out for 2 whole weeks now...didn't know 2 weeks is "a while ago".
What are you talking about "single core"? I think I missed something there. Anyway, you're right this website is about the "pursuit of performance" and I guess I just got excited to see AMD do something that Intel hasn't done yet but since they still haven't come out with a viable contender to the i7 then I should probably refrain from bringing them up. It won't happen again.

Stawp, you're making delco look even worse than it is.
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Nice to see the price is lower then a i7 4770K.
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4930k price is what I care about, even though the 4820k looks interesting. I want to get more CPU performance and I also want an excuse to downsize and go M-ATX.
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4930k price is what I care about, even though the 4820k looks interesting. I want to get more CPU performance and I also want an excuse to downsize and go M-ATX.

4930K will still be sell at around $550 mark.
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4930K will still be sell at around $550 mark.

Darn. I wanted a hex with a MSRP of $400-450 so I could (hopefully) pick up one at Microcenter for less than $400. A man can dream, I guess I'll be looking at used SB-E or discounted SB-E.
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Stawp, you're making delco look even worse than it is.

1. I'm not from Delco but recently moved there from Blue Bell (if you even know where that is) so you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

2. What exactly are you even talking about? I made what i thought were valid points and was promptly shown where I was mistaken....I thought that was how forums worked rolleyes.gif

3. How about you learn how to spell "stop" because your lame ass rendition of the word is far from amusing.

In short, contribute or ST*U! Thank you.
Edited by DownshiftArtist - 7/31/13 at 10:19am
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Intel is probably not counting on selling many of these chips, enough to release a new chipset. Don't forget that Intel didn't release a new chipset when they introduced the 32nm hexacores for the X58 platform. Back then hexacores were a niche, so it wasn't warranted, now hexacores are still a niche, but more importantly is that people who wanted or needed one already bought one of the SB-e ones.

The CPU upgrade alone will be a bonus for some people who are either enthusiasts or really benefit from lower power consumption while using software that takes advantage of all threads - but let's be honest, this isn't a number high enough to warrant a new chipset, for others it will either be a pass given they already have an i7-3930K or better, or a "Im still enjoying SB-e, my priorities right now are a new GPU and/or a new monitor, I'll buy the i7-4930K next year", so Intel doesn't have much financial incentive to release a new chipset, nor do motherboard makers to release new models.

For those who chose to upgrade, you're getting:

Quad channel DDR3 1866 memory controller - first consumer CPUs to feature it;

40 officially validated PCIe 3.0 lanes on the CPU (SB-e is not officially validated for PCIe 3.0);

Highest stock clockspeeds from Intel CPUs (good marketing, but in reality it's to somewhat offset the performance disadvantage compared to Haswell, but still it's a good metric to show off, not to mention it's an assurance that the chips can clock well) plus the fact it uses solder to connect the CPU die to the IHS.

Lower power consumption, higher IPC, more features (random number generator) and instructions.

So you get official PCIe 3.0 support which is what matters when making a long term purchase decision, along with IB class memory controller, capable of higher memory overclocks.

The chipset question is secondary. USB 3.0 being non-native is not a big deal when it comes to assessing a computer's performance in general. So, the motherboard has an extra chip, a native solution would provide a bit better performance and better power consumption given the higher level of integration, but it doesn't make a buying decision, especially when you're talking about an enthusiast platform that will be using high power CPUs and GPUs.

The lack of more native SATA 3 ports could be a problem, but the majority of people will have one SSD connected to one of those ports and then conventional HDD's which won't bottleneck SATA 2 ports. Even the niche enthusiasts could go by with two SSDs in RAID connected to the SATA 3 ports and then have the rest of the storage subsystem composed of HDDs connected to either the SATA 2 ports or even the non native SATA 3 ports, which, as far as I know, only seem to give problems when working with SSDs.

So it's not really a must for Intel to release a new chipset given that the missing features are not exactly missing and the platform is not high volume to warrant it.
Edited by tpi2007 - 7/31/13 at 10:39am
 
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1. I'm not from Delco but recently moved there from Blue Bell (if you even know where that is) so you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

2. What exactly are you even talking about? I made what i thought were valid points and was promptly shown where I was mistaken....I thought that was how forums worked rolleyes.gif

3. How about you learn how to spell "stop" because your lame ass rendition of the word is far from amusing.

In short, contribute or ST*U! Thank you.

1) You're right, I obviously have no idea where delco is, or blue bell ... I guess there is a 30% chance you could be from the part of delco that doesn't suck.

2) Browser had the page open already, and I responded to it when I got to it.. minor fail on my part.. as I didn't realize this thread would be THAT active.

3) lol, welcome to the internet, fwend.
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I just bought a 4770k and mobo from Microcenter last week. i haven't opened either of them yet, so now I'm seriously considering taking them back and getting a 4830k in Sept.
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