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Worth it to water cool MSI GTX 780 lightning when it comes out?

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New to water cooling PC components but I am knowledgeable/experienced with plumbing.


My question:
Is it worth it to start ordering parts now to begin a liquid cooling setup once the MSI GTX 780 lightning is released next week?


Planned to upgrade my CPU cooling from my current "fake" hybrid water cooler (H100) on my i7 2600k and was thinking of increasing the rad size I was going to buy and tying the GPU in as well.


I know the card has yet to be released, as well as the card fan details/temps. I am looking for any experienced advice if this is a wise decision or should I just stick with the stock GPU cooler that comes with the card. Probably wont be overclocking it much at first but if the additional cooling will aid in keeping the card in better condition I am all for it. Just wanted to check before I dropped a bunch of money on something that may not offer much of a performance increase cooling wise.


Any advice is much appreciated thanks,
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You have to decide if its worth it to you. Do you expect water cooling to get you the max overclock? Do you have to have the lowest possible temps? I have never water cooled a GPU, I still have a nice overclock on my 7950. The air coolers on GPU's are also much better now a days.
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You will be waiting a while for a H20 block since the card is a non reference PCB. We still haven't seen a release date for evga's hydro copper block for the classified, but it would be worth it to H20 cool it, especially if you mod the voltage.
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Originally Posted by theseekeroffun View Post

You will be waiting a while for a H20 block since the card is a non reference PCB. We still haven't seen a release date for evga's hydro copper block for the classified, but it would be worth it to H20 cool it, especially if you mod the voltage.

This would be my concern too. Have there been water blocks for any of the lightning cards?

Well, then I googled. Yes for the 680:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17369/ex-blc-1343/EK_MSI_GeForce_680_GTX_Lightning_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Acetal_Nickel_CSQ_EK-FC680_GTX_Lightning_-_AcetalNickel.html

I would still be concerned that you would end up waiting for a while/forever for the block though.
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This would be my concern too. Have there been water blocks for any of the lightning cards?

Well, then I googled. Yes for the 680:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17369/ex-blc-1343/EK_MSI_GeForce_680_GTX_Lightning_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Acetal_Nickel_CSQ_EK-FC680_GTX_Lightning_-_AcetalNickel.html

I would still be concerned that you would end up waiting for a while/forever for the block though.

Sometimes the wait is six months.
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If you want to water cool a 780, get a reference one and put a block on it. It would be senseless to pay for the nice cooler just to take it off.
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If you want to water cool a 780, get a reference one and put a block on it. It would be senseless to pay for the nice cooler just to take it off.

No. The reason you buy a lightning is for the increased voltage over reference (and non-reference, voltage limited) cards. Watercooling just allows you to set your OC headroom as high as it can go and it'll never throttle.

However, WCing the GTX 780 won't actually net you much of a higher overclock than the stock air cooler. Generally 20-30Mzh more, but only if that.
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No. The reason you buy a lightning is for the increased voltage over reference (and non-reference, voltage limited) cards. Watercooling just allows you to set your OC headroom as high as it can go and it'll never throttle.

However, WCing the GTX 780 won't actually net you much of a higher overclock than the stock air cooler. Generally 20-30Mzh more, but only if that.

Lets not forget that overclocking is also luck of the draw. The best cooling doesn't matter if the card just says no.
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Reference GTX780s don't clock worth a damn from my experience. I am very disappointed with both of mine. They didn't even gain a single MHz from water.

You'll need to use a hack in order to get more than +0.15V on the Lightning more than likely. But if you are willing to do that I say go with it.
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This would be my concern too. Have there been water blocks for any of the lightning cards?
I would still be concerned that you would end up waiting for a while/forever for the block though.

I figured there would be a lengthy wait on the block and thats been one of the reasons I have been weighing my options. I was planning on just doing the CPU at first but then the wheels started turning (always dangerous haha) and I've considered going with a large external radiator like the MO-RA 3 PRO w/ 4x180mm fans for the headroom to expand and add the GPU to the loop when/if the block was released. Thanks for the reply.

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Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post

No. The reason you buy a lightning is for the increased voltage over reference (and non-reference, voltage limited) cards. Watercooling just allows you to set your OC headroom as high as it can go and it'll never throttle.
However, WCing the GTX 780 won't actually net you much of a higher overclock than the stock air cooler. Generally 20-30Mzh more, but only if that.

Thanks for the reply, the voltage is exactly why I have been waiting for the lightning. Classified looks to be a very nice card as well but I definitely want to wait and see once the lightning comes out.

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Reference GTX780s don't clock worth a damn from my experience. I am very disappointed with both of mine. They didn't even gain a single MHz from water.
You'll need to use a hack in order to get more than +0.15V on the Lightning more than likely. But if you are willing to do that I say go with it.

Thanks. Sorry to hear about your findings with the reference cards although they're still a great GPU and a hell of a better value compared to a titan haha.
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