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Why can't we have both, a visually stunning game AND a good-gameplay experience? Why does it have to be one over the other?
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Why can't we have both, a visually stunning game AND a good-gameplay experience? Why does it have to be one over the other?

Probably because the developers who can afford to work on games with stunning visuals usually work under shady publishers that are content with releasing games devoid of substance and soul while the developers who make actually great games have limited budget and can only take their graphics so far.
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A game can be stunning whiteout major investments a good amount of Indie games have proven this, also mobile gaming is more for casual then anything, I mean when I'm stuck in a situation where I'm either waiting for someone or something, I just bring out my smartphone and rock some world of goo/ angry birds or what not.

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I think Extra Credits summarized this best in Graphics vs Aesthetics.

What I'd really like to see more out of games is the same sort of approach Pixar does with CGI. After Final Fantasy: Spirits Within, no one was going into the CGI moviemaking business in an effort to make super-realistic-looking, human-like performances. The easiest way to get that was with real people. Pixar, instead, focused on a lot of cartoony, stylistic appearances of their characters, and generally came out on top, EVEN when they were doing dramatic human-focused moments like the first 5 minutes of Up.

Things like Borderlands and Team Fortress 2 are great steps in the right direction. Frankly, though, I don't see any particular reason why someone couldn't give a stylistic appearance to a realistic modern war shooter. (It would have to be the right style, of course, but it could give it a lot of distinction)
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I think Extra Credits summarized this best in Graphics vs Aesthetics.

What I'd really like to see more out of games is the same sort of approach Pixar does with CGI. After Final Fantasy: Spirits Within, no one was going into the CGI moviemaking business in an effort to make super-realistic-looking, human-like performances. The easiest way to get that was with real people. Pixar, instead, focused on a lot of cartoony, stylistic appearances of their characters, and generally came out on top, EVEN when they were doing dramatic human-focused moments like the first 5 minutes of Up.

Things like Borderlands and Team Fortress 2 are great steps in the right direction. Frankly, though, I don't see any particular reason why someone couldn't give a stylistic appearance to a realistic modern war shooter. (It would have to be the right style, of course, but it could give it a lot of distinction)

It could be worse. At least they stopped slinging poop on things and calling the brownish results "realistic" biggrin.gif
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Even though I Love good graphics I have to agree. people value battery life a lot in mobile and good graphics create a huge drain

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A game can be stunning whiteout major investments a good amount of Indie games have proven this, also mobile gaming is more for casual then anything, I mean when I'm stuck in a situation where I'm either waiting for someone or something, I just bring out my smartphone and rock some world of goo/ angry birds or what not.

^This. Great graphics and games can be made on a tight budget. Just look at the metro and withcer games. Big money companies just piss away money in all the wrong places. Spending millions on actors, mocap, celebrities and a marketing budget to rival that of the game development cost. And then they complaint that the game "only" sold 3-4 million copies. Next gen games don't have to be expensive to make. Just because the hardware is better does not mean you need to spend a dime more to make a game. The games are expensive because they choice to spend a obscene amount of money to make them. Despite what some people think production value is not the same thing as money spent.
    
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