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Don't owe me nothin! I've been on both sides of the equation myself tongue.gif. i do appreciate you taking the time to post and the sentiment however. I'm still working on my oc. So disappointing lol. I've beat this thing to death and spent so much time trying to dial it in I simply don't even get to use it. Now with summer coming... Ugh!

Caught in the loop of being "set" on a certain speed and being at the limit of my cooling which = failure requiring more volts which causes more heat which calls for more volts and it just spirals from there lol.

If I could afford a custom loop I'd have already done so but that expense was for my main pc tongue.gif. Instead I've tried to do the most with what I have. Unfortunately I'm left with the only prime stability runs being at 4.7/stock lol. I can get 4.8 but it requires dropping of ram and ht/nb speeds which makes the extra 100 on the cpu moot.

I'm sure I could long be gaming stable but I try to practice what I preach with baselines and such (which is biting me in the arse atm).

Anyhow, before I carry on any further tongue.gif

PS you did mention something interesting. I have 3 - 290x in there as well. Also a 1350w psu tongue.gif. You've noticed issues with power or just erring on the side of caution?

Don't like the way my machine acts with the 1350W cant go over a certain OC or I get freezes. That's overclocking any of the components. Turn it all to stock works fine. I have a 1500W power supply coming at the end of the week. I used a power calculator and my system came out to 1400W. Ill get the new power supply installed and see if I can maintain the 5GHZ constant again. Should be interesting.
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Johan45... dat 4 core/ 4 thread clock tho....... eek.gif

I have seen that configuration run circles around 2 modules 4 threads in benchmarks that tested it both ways.
Wish I could find that read.....
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I have no doubt there's better performance that way without sharing resources but 8 cores is always better in my world. I was just playing with the new BIOS that night.
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I've been playing with a 5117 OC for the last few weeks coming from a 24 hr Prime95/ 20 runs Max IBT AVX stable 5016MHz OC and wanted to share latest results before starting another 24 hr run.

10 quick runs on Very High Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
followed by another quick 10 runs on Maximum (hour and 45 minutes) I knew I should have set the counter to 20 runs rolleyes.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The one thing I found that noticeably helped the most was fine tuning the "CPU Power Thermal Control" as its affects did change even from 5016MHz.
Anyone having issues with excessive voltage may want to experiment a little.


Gaahhh, wish my chip could do that mad.gif, here's mine 4.9 @1.512 after 20 Runs Very High IBT AVX. For some reason Prime completely freezes my PC even at Stock
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stock settjngs is with turbo core on.

I think you quoted an old post of mine there - anyways, by stock I was referring to stock speed of 4.7GHz only. I never have Turbo Core on, and I always have the various settings from "The Guide" in place, albeit with a slight adjustment here or there.
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I hear ya. Without a high end custom loop that's about the tip of the iceberg with these chips. Anyone who says otherwise has a very interesting interpretation of "stable" assuming they're disabling turbo core. If not they should be making that clear.

I can't get 24hr prime stability at anything over 4.7. This is with a lapped chip, liquid metal Tim, and an h100i with 2 extra fans. Temps after 12 hours of prime get close to 80c and it eventually locks @ 4.8. (1.5v)

The people claiming 50c on an h80 are FoS or load testing with disk defragmenter. That being said, with good cooling (better than aio 240mm) I believe these chips have a few hundred MHz of headroom. They just create SO much heat. My Intel rig @ 4.9 is capable of roughly the same but has a much higher temp ceiling so it's irrelevant.

Anyone know which voltage directly effects the HT clock? on a crosshair5 fwiw

Have you used the H80i in a case with solid airflow? Not the H80, but the H80i - which definitely outperforms it's predecessor. The H80i with a push/pull fan configuration, running fans at max speed on the case exhaust in an Antec 902 performed reasonably well for me on my first 9590: meaning I hit 5Ghz stable with 4 sticks of RAM at 1600MHz. Had to compromise on the rated 1866MHz speed to pull it off, and also had to add a rigged up 12cm fan on the base plate with the side panel off. No turbo, and settings pretty much the same as "The Guide" calls out with a tweak here and there.

As a matter of fact, after trying 2 additional chips, two additional cases (Antec 1100 and Corsair Ammo Can), and swapping the H80i for the top rated AIO Nepton 280L, I still have not surpassed those initial results. Granted, my stability testing is fairly intense, but I can cruise through these tests with no issues at all on lower speeds with voltages on Auto.

I have not tried lapping my chips yet, but I did try the Liquid TIM once, and a few other highly rated TIMs: in the end, I've stuck with AS5, because I didn't see any improvement using the others, and AS5 is cheaper and easier :-)

Point # 1: don't knock the H80i unless you've used it in a push/pull config in a great airflow case (with base plate cooling) - it made the top 10 on frosty tech AIO as well, and for a reason.
Point # 2: I've had 3 FX9590's hit between 4.9Ghz and 5Ghz stable, with the primary determining factor coming down to quantity of RAM sticks and their speed.
Point # 3: I'm sure there are both better and worse chips to be had, but as I've had fairly similar results with 3 different chips, I'd say my results are typical and should be expected in a properly cooled setup.
Point # 4: dissipating the heat from >1.5V on the CPU is no easy task - you need to have everything perfect for your cooling environment (68F ambient temp, right side panel base plate fan, left side panel VRM fan, top rated AIO or better, clear intake fan airflow to the Mobo and CPU block, a good exhaust, all fans on max, and use all high performance fans).
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Have you used the H80i in a case with solid airflow? Not the H80, but the H80i - which definitely outperforms it's predecessor. The H80i with a push/pull fan configuration, running fans at max speed on the case exhaust in an Antec 902 performed reasonably well for me on my first 9590: meaning I hit 5Ghz stable with 4 sticks of RAM at 1600MHz. Had to compromise on the rated 1866MHz speed to pull it off, and also had to add a rigged up 12cm fan on the base plate with the side panel off. No turbo, and settings pretty much the same as "The Guide" calls out with a tweak here and there.

As a matter of fact, after trying 2 additional chips, two additional cases (Antec 1100 and Corsair Ammo Can), and swapping the H80i for the top rated AIO Nepton 280L, I still have not surpassed those initial results. Granted, my stability testing is fairly intense, but I can cruise through these tests with no issues at all on lower speeds with voltages on Auto.

I have not tried lapping my chips yet, but I did try the Liquid TIM once, and a few other highly rated TIMs: in the end, I've stuck with AS5, because I didn't see any improvement using the others, and AS5 is cheaper and easier :-)

Point # 1: don't knock the H80i unless you've used it in a push/pull config in a great airflow case (with base plate cooling) - it made the top 10 on frosty tech AIO as well, and for a reason.
Point # 2: I've had 3 FX9590's hit between 4.9Ghz and 5Ghz stable, with the primary determining factor coming down to quantity of RAM sticks and their speed.
Point # 3: I'm sure there are both better and worse chips to be had, but as I've had fairly similar results with 3 different chips, I'd say my results are typical and should be expected in a properly cooled setup.
Point # 4: dissipating the heat from >1.5V on the CPU is no easy task - you need to have everything perfect for your cooling environment (68F ambient temp, right side panel base plate fan, left side panel VRM fan, top rated AIO or better, clear intake fan airflow to the Mobo and CPU block, a good exhaust, all fans on max, and use all high performance fans).

Just put a system together with a 9590. Using a 110i Gtx, in a 760T case. Initially I had the rad screwed to the top of the case. Running Prime at 5Ghz, I saw temps of 69-72 on HWMonitor. Today I moved the rad to the front and added 2 extra fans for a push pull config, and the temp dropped 10oC. Figure pulling cool air in is much better than pushing warm case air out..
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Good to know. I have a new h80i to try on this setup.
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I recently upgraded to a 9590
I reached 4,8 Ghz on 8150 (Cinebench R15.0 score 717)
I reached 4,9 Ghz on 8350 (Cinebench R15.0 score 779)

But the 9590 won't go over 4,8 Ghz (Cinebench R15.0 score 772)

My Setup is;
SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
4x4 GB Kingston HyperX Predator (1866mhz 1,65V)
Corsair AX860I
Corsair H110i

I use 2x80mm Fans on my VRM and I build a custom socket cooler, what improved my socket temp by ~6°C

I set my thermal limits to 80 socket and 72 CPU

I tried almost everything.

No stability with FSB or multiplier above 4,8 Ghz

CPU LLC - Ultra High and High tested
NB LLC - High
CPU Current Capability - 110% - 130%
NB Current Capability - 110 % - 130%
CPU Power Phase Control - tested with Standard and Extreme no difference
CPU Power Duty Control - T-Probe and Extreme noting : /

RAM was always at 1,65 V <1200mhz 9 - 11 - 9 - 27 - 42

C'nQ - disabled
C1E - disabled
SVM - disabled
C6 - disabled
HPC - both
Amp - both

I pushed the cpu up to 1,51 V around there is also my thermal limit

I might lost the lottery badly, but I am very disappointed that the 8350>9590


edit: I should say, i test stability with OCCT, 8150 and 8350 where stable over 8-12 hours, several test, the 9590 crashes within the first 15 min

edit2: If I put CPU Power Phase Control to Asus Optimized I lose stability but gain like 15°C more headroom, I'll try 1,55V results later
Edited by Yamie - 10/22/15 at 10:42am
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Try testing with 2 sticks of ram. My bet is the IMC is dropping out on you. Set the CPU_NB voltage to at least 1.25v as well.
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