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um yea according to military version of the starfarer "Gemini" it has but hasn't been fully released spec wise. Just imagine...the size of an idris, almost, with 95% of that volume dedicated to ass whopin. I know it hasn't been decided whether or not a base model will be able to come close to the Gemini though.tongue.gif
The Gemini is just heavily armored, it's still a tanker. It's still going to need to be defended but it'll be better at taking hits from the bigger ships. The Gemini is just something you'd send with a fleet to keep all the fighters fueled, not some kind of flagship like the Idris.
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The Gemini is just heavily armored, it's still a tanker. It's still going to need to be defended but it'll be better at taking hits from the bigger ships. The Gemini is just something you'd send with a fleet to keep all the fighters fueled, not some kind of flagship like the Idris.
I remember it being mentioned somewhere in that Gemini thread that i could be made into a "poor mans carrier"
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I'm also rather displeased by this whole pay to whatever thing, but let's be honest, that is how they get the money they need to make a better game. We all want it to be as best as possible.

I myself pledged $60 back then for a i300 with lifetime insurance, just so that I can crash that thing into an asteroid the first times I play and get it all back from the dead. And do it over and over again. biggrin.gif
But paying $500 for a Vanduul was overkill even for me. Hell, some folks paid $1000 for some large ships. I mentally bailed out at that point, lol.

However, when you begin to play seriously and purchase (in-game) stuff for your ship, it's over with the risky life style, because you'll loose all the upgrades if you're destroyed.

From what I can tell the whole paying thing is about to get the base ship layout with insurance, but the stuff to make it effective (all the engines, weapons, tech) will be purchased with in-game currency only (that is raised by playing, not paying).
Also, you can pay (in-game) to have insurance (probably for all of your stuff, including the upgrades). I think it won't be horribly much in-game currency, not if you play regularly. So for a little expense you get your entire stuff secured for a certain extend of time for the case you trash it.

So it should not be that unfair. People who paid real money for their perks, will just get a slight edge of security over others, but nothing to extreme. And the fact that you got folks with badass ships right away just adds to the diversity and won't have an entire universe inhabited by Aurora's.


That is the old information that I think I recall, I believe. Correct/update me if I'm wrong.
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I remember it being mentioned somewhere in that Gemini thread that i could be made into a "poor mans carrier"
People want it to be that, that doesn't mean it can or should be able to do that. It'd negate the purpose of the Constellation being more expensive if the Starfarer could have more cargo capacity and comparable firepower. At most, it has room for 4 Hornets that are completely exposed. It still only has 1 hardpoint able to support a turret. It very well may be able to be used to transport ships in place of a carrier, but I doubt those ships would be accessible mid-flight. Having the Starfarer be combat-capable just invalidates too many other ships.
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People want it to be that, that doesn't mean it can or should be able to do that. It'd negate the purpose of the Constellation being more expensive if the Starfarer could have more cargo capacity and comparable firepower. At most, it has room for 4 Hornets that are completely exposed. It still only has 1 hardpoint able to support a turret. It very well may be able to be used to transport ships in place of a carrier, but I doubt those ships would be accessible mid-flight. Having the Starfarer be combat-capable just invalidates too many other ships.
Not particularity as it wont have the ability to carry ships+cargo/fuel.... its one or the other they way i read it from CIG. Also it wont have the mounted firepower of a conney or speed or maneuverability but maybe more armor on critical systems. Just what i read from cig but its impossible to actually find it with their search function.
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Not particularity as it wont have the ability to carry ships+cargo/fuel.... its one or the other they way i read it from CIG. Also it wont have the mounted firepower of a conney or speed or maneuverability but maybe more armor on critical systems. Just what i read from cig but its impossible to actually find it with their search function.

Are you certain it was a Dev and not just a fan with it well thought out? If it was customizable to that degree, what would stop you from doing 2/3 crates with 1 Hornet/325a? Both Hornets and 325as have been said to be capable of bringing down a Connie, having them able to be docked to save fuel while escorting would be too powerful. The military wouldn't use it as a carrier as they have actual carriers and small-hangar capable corvettes, so it wouldn't make any sense.
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This game wont fail people...............Eve online is a subscription based model which is kinda similar to this except for some minor things like the gameplay and universe. They are doing really well for themselves, remember people stuff is not cheap in EVE, first of all you pay big bucks to play each month [exaggeration like $15 of month] and its basically pay to win too but on a more drastic scale xD

Even with that their fanbase is ridiculously loyal and not to mention huge. One of the reason i think if Eve can do it......."Star Citizen" can too
    
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Are you certain it was a Dev and not just a fan with it well thought out? If it was customizable to that degree, what would stop you from doing 2/3 crates with 1 Hornet/325a? Both Hornets and 325as have been said to be capable of bringing down a Connie, having them able to be docked to save fuel while escorting would be too powerful. The military wouldn't use it as a carrier as they have actual carriers and small-hangar capable corvettes, so it wouldn't make any sense.
dude a aurora with a good pilot can bring down a connie without a crew. You dont understand the logistical point in having friends crewing your connie over expensive albeit smart and skilled npc's. It was dev and it could have been in one of the earlier wingmans hangers as well. Not sure and definitely not going to try and dig it up but they never stated that it would be overpowered. Think if as if in the dogfight module if its overpowered they will reduce the number/quality of fighters. But is pointless to agrue about ship/ship when we dont know anything about the configs or strong suits of either ship yet. All we do know is that a skilled pilot can overcome his lesser equipment paired with a lesser overequipped pilot.
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dude a aurora with a good pilot can bring down a connie without a crew. You dont understand the logistical point in having friends crewing your connie over expensive albeit smart and skilled npc's. It was dev and it could have been in one of the earlier wingmans hangers as well. Not sure and definitely not going to try and dig it up but they never stated that it would be overpowered. Think if as if in the dogfight module if its overpowered they will reduce the number/quality of fighters. But is pointless to agrue about ship/ship when we dont know anything about the configs or strong suits of either ship yet. All we do know is that a skilled pilot can overcome his lesser equipment paired with a lesser overequipped pilot.
Well yes. But the Hornet/325a are the paper to the Connie's rock. And the bigger the gear difference the bigger the skill difference needs to be. An ace pilot in a Aurora isn't bringing down a good pilot in a Connie. Even without a crew, the Connie has a good amount of pilot-controlled firepower with the forward facing cannons and missiles.

A Starfarer being carrier capable doesn't make sense from a balance/ship classification perspective.
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Well yes. But the Hornet/325a are the paper to the Connie's rock. And the bigger the gear difference the bigger the skill difference needs to be. An ace pilot in a Aurora isn't bringing down a good pilot in a Connie. Even without a crew, the Connie has a good amount of pilot-controlled firepower with the forward facing cannons and missiles.

A Starfarer being carrier capable doesn't make sense from a balance/ship classification perspective.
How so, it wont be taking the connie's niche of mobile gunship with air superiority fighter in anyway whatsoever and yes an aurora pilot (skill and armament wise well configured) can kill a connie. It wouldn't be the game its going to be if it didn't have a chance but will it be victorious over 50% of the time...no.
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