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post #41 of 52
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Originally Posted by superior View Post

That isn't true, if you look at the latest lan photos on HLTV you can clearly see that f0rest is using a Kinzu v2 rubberised edition and that GeT_RiGhT is using a Xai.

How can you tell he is using Kinzu V2 Rubberized when the V1 and V2 rubberized look excatly the same. The only way to know if a Kinzu V1 is a rubberized Kinzu V2 is to flip the mouse over and read the label.

I read recently that Forrest is still on the Kinzu V1.



GeT_RiGhT might have switched to the Sensei but he did use Kinzu V1 for a while. He never complained about hitting the malfunction speed.


GeT_RiGhT's setup 2011


Edited by Oeshon - 10/22/13 at 3:27am
post #42 of 52
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Originally Posted by jigglywiggly View Post

of course you don't care about 1v1 clan arena, because you need to aim and this thread is about mice
when people with 2300 elo think they can do it too, they get surprised by the results https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojl3HkxHZ68

about the game, so what? rapha beats evil 20-2 in the finals and evil plays 5 hours a day, games like that happen all the time.
rapha's aim is one of the best. look how long he takes to aim. he gives himself no time and fires instantly, disregarding his accuracies.
on toxicity which is one of the mouse aimiest maps, he beat evil at quakecon 20-2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBqPIPT_UBk&t=48m47s
that picture was a joke, you should have seen the chat before that. it's also edited, look at the background, it's repeated and blurred, and the size differences between the lines are different because I uploaded that for tasty esr drama.


rapha just uses the wmo because he's used to it, he said he started using it in 2008/2009 when I asked him

LOL jigglywiggly. As you know the screenshot is from the match between you and Rapha that happened at FACEIT Sunday Spring Cup #6.

A match that was set up because of forum drama and entertainment purposes, not because you deserved the spot.

Here is the Twitch VOD for all to see: http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv/b/405522169?t=5h31m53s

Rapha vs Evil at Quakecon was neck and neck. Rapha was plus backing all the time and trying not to make any mistakes because Evil was overpowering him with his superior combat skills.

Games were tied until Toxicity the final map. He had a convincing score at Toxcitiy because of the map. Its easy to spawn rape and get into the flow not allowing your opponent to get a chance to take control back.

Its part of the reason why it is being removed from tournaments, because it is a coin flip map. Its the only map where a 1700 Elo player can beat the Top 20 players.

Rapha says himself that his aim is nothing special, he makes it easier for himself by always having the right positioning.
Edited by Oeshon - 10/22/13 at 3:30am
post #43 of 52
Look closer at the logo of the v1 and v2. wink.gif
post #44 of 52
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Originally Posted by Oeshon View Post

LOL jigglywiggly. As you know the screenshot is from the match between you and Rapha that happened in FACEIT Sunday Spring Cup #6.

A match that was set up because of forum drama and entertainment purposes, not because you deserved the spot.

Here is the Twitch VOD for all to see: http://www.twitch.tv/faceittv/b/405522169?t=5h31m53s

Rapha vs Evil at Quakecon was neck and neck. Rapha was plus backing all the time and trying not to make any mistakes because Evil was overpowering him with his superior combat skills.

Games were tied until Toxicity the final map. He had a convincing score at Toxcitiy because of the map. Its easy to spawn rape and get into the flow not allowing your opponent to get a chance to take control back.

Its part of the reason why its being removed from tournaments, because its a coin flip map. Its the only map where a 1700 Elo player can beat the Top 20 players.

Rapha says himself that his aim is nothing special, he makes it easier for himself by always having the right positioning.
no

the picture is from before the game
you won't find any of that text in the game, you can go through it if you want. Also what spot? It was faceit, that's the same place where I played against apparition in the video I linked above.

He's already specced me play against whaz where I won last month.
rapha won't accept my lg duel request even though I have 6 times his ping. (He gets 15 to chicago and I get 80).

rapha has insomnia. look at his eyes when he plays, when there's a lot of dark circles he doesn't play so good.
I have already asked him about his aim. He said something along the line of: when I'm aiming good it's one of the best.

rapha was out lg'ing evil hard on that game. check out the rails at the end too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bG8lqZoUwM
Edited by jigglywiggly - 10/22/13 at 3:36am
post #45 of 52
I think the cool thing about WMO's shape is that combined with the forward sensor positioning, it allows a relatively big range of motion using only fingertip movements. Tox for instance seems to have the kind of very relaxed fingertip grip that looks like it benefits a lot from this design.
post #46 of 52
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Originally Posted by jigglywiggly View Post

no

the picture is from before the game
you won't find any of that text in the game, you can go through it if you want. Also what spot? It was faceit, that's the same place where I played against apparition in the video I linked above.

He's already specced me play against whaz where I won last month.
rapha won't accept my lg duel request even though I have 6 times his ping. (He gets 15 to chicago and I get 80).

rapha has insomnia. look at his eyes when he plays, when there's a lot of dark circles he doesn't play so good.
I have already asked him about his aim. He said something along the line of: when I'm aiming good it's one of the best.

rapha was out lg'ing evil hard on that game. check out the rails at the end too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bG8lqZoUwM

In Toxicity he out aimed evil because he predicted where Evil was gonna be all the time, and Toxicity is one of the maps where reading your opponent will give you easy shots. In all the other maps Rapha plus backed the whole time trying to avoid any fights that would be determined by combat skills, I don't blame him why play to your opponent strengths. Rapha played so well positionally he could have used a ball mouse and those games would still be close.
Edited by Oeshon - 10/22/13 at 3:57am
post #47 of 52
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Originally Posted by Oeshon View Post

In Toxicity he out aimed evil because he predicted where Evil was gonna be all the time. In Lost World Rapha ran away the whole match trying to avoid any fights because he was scared of Evil's combat skills.
huh?
that's not what I was talking about at all
re-read my post, and maybe your own

if you don't play duel much that will happen, or even if you do. Look at the strenx(19- (-2)) or evil game(20-2)
i started to play a few games after that and made it to 1700 elo with ease.

and if you have a problem with +backing, then don't play duel in the first place because that's all it is.
if you want combat, play 3v3 ca or below

this thread is about the wmo, not duel which is item timing and spawn killing. ca 1v1-3v3 is a good indicator of aim which is why I brought it up.
Edited by jigglywiggly - 10/22/13 at 3:59am
post #48 of 52
kinzu v1 has steelseries inscription under logo, v2 hasn't. so f0rest currently use a kinzu v2 rubberized edition.
post #49 of 52
My mistake. But my point was that both Forrest and GeT_RiGhT used the Kinzu V1 for a while at the 400dpi step which has worse ms speed than the WMO . I doubt they switched from it because of low malfunction speed. I think it might have to do more with the fact that the Kinzu V1 has heavy prediction and positive acceleration.
post #50 of 52
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Originally Posted by maninblue View Post

kinzu v1 has steelseries inscription under logo, v2 hasn't. so f0rest currently use a kinzu v2 rubberized edition.

f0rest using the V2 version
he told that in his facebook
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