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Would be pretty sweet if true, Not getting hopes up though.
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From this thread I learned more about OCN ****ty jokes than AMDs processor
Edited by nitrubbb - 8/4/13 at 10:51am
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From this thread I learned more about OCN ****ty humor than AMDs processor

Nothing about this seems believable to me. Why skip right to Phenom 4 as well...what about 3/III?

If this was their HEDT architecture like Intel's 2011, I may have believed it.

75w tdp my butt...lol.
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75W TDP = unlikely

(They have voltage as 1.4+ V ...)

And why would they skip Phenom III?

Kaveri (Steamroller 28nm) is 2-4 core and is about 65W...

I don't think a die shrink would result in 3x power efficiency tongue.gif , 15-20% yes (ala Sandy to Ivy Bridge) ....

~50% if you're going three generations + new transistors ala Bloomfield 130W 45nm process (lga1366 not LGA1156) , to Sandy Bridge's 32nm 95W , to Ivy Bridge's 77W 22nm process (LGA1155) WITH TRI-GATEs

Phenom II (125W TDP) was 45nm , this is rumored 25nm (a process node that doesn't exist!).
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Originally Posted by MrLinky View Post

Ridiculous specifications aside, if you do the math on the core and HyperTransport clocks, you'll see that they are off by a little bit. 200.91 x 30 = 6027.30 not 6027.32. And to achieve a HT Link speed of 8000.09 you'd need a multiplier of 39.81927 (number is rounded).
Good observation tongue.gif
Edited by AlphaC - 8/4/13 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by Vispor View Post

This is either A. Fake or B. A lie.

I'd argue it could also be C. Nonsene D. Pipe dream.
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No way this is real....
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if they're gonna beat intel they'll need this.

This, this, and this. If real (though obviously not) this would be the kind of chip that would keep the engineers at Santa Clara awake at night. 75W TDP?! Not on a 25nm node, sorry pal.
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Although it would rock, this looks faker than a $9.99 bill.
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lachen.gif Epic rumor, but no. wth.gif
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I am more likely to be believed if I say that I will revive the Phenom lineup by reverse-engineering Deneb and fabricating a 22nm chip myself at home with a chisel and some beach sand, than this.
Ya need a ocean worth of salt wink.gif
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Originally Posted by TopicClocker View Post

Phenoms IIs were good for their time and can still cope with the quad core FX processors, would be nice to see a return, but is that "Phenom IV" I see?

A bit far fetched?
Would be really great if this was true, I don't like the IPC of the FXs, they're hardly an improvement over Phenom II but their multi-threaded performance seems quite good because of the core count.
Would love to see AMD step-up their core performance, right now I'm deciding if I should stick around for another 2 years on AMD or go Intel when Intel drop a new and major architecture.
But intel isn't going to drop another desktop arch. Refresh yes but new arch? Nope.
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Originally Posted by Kuivamaa View Post

Obsolete naming? Check.
Ridiculous specs? Check.
Amazing power envelope? Check.
Obscure process? Check.

If they would have mentioned 20nm/125w/5.0Ghz they could make people wonder for a moment,though.
150W could be possible for a 5GHz if Steamroller really reduced power consumption (that was one of the main design targets for SR) ... And on 20nm? But we all know 20nm is not out there tongue.gif
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My BS meter is so high it's still increasing out of its enclosure.
My BS meter is being calculated on by my server farm ... it's still being calculated as i speak.
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Originally Posted by EliteReplay View Post

im sure if this would have been an INTEL rumor, many of you would have been asking, on how can you get it pre order... ironic no?

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Originally Posted by mrawesome421 View Post

I had no idea it was so easy to alter CPU-z.

This REALLY says something for that program.

Guess I won't be taking any of those 7Ghz over clocks I see posted around here seriously anymore....
Heard of photoshop?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

75W TDP = unlikely

(They have voltage as 1.4+ V ...)

And why would they skip Phenom III?

Kaveri (Steamroller 28nm) is 2-4 core and is about 65W...

I don't think a die shrink would result in 3x power efficiency tongue.gif , 15-20% yes (ala Sandy to Ivy Bridge) ....

~50% if you're going three generations + new transistors ala Bloomfield 130W 45nm process (lga1366 not LGA1156) , to Sandy Bridge's 32nm 95W , to Ivy Bridge's 77W 22nm process (LGA1155) WITH TRI-GATEs

Phenom II (125W TDP) was 45nm , this is rumored 25nm (a process node that doesn't exist!).
Good observation tongue.gif
I have to be fair here, Bloomfield has a power consumption that high because of the 3-channel IMC instead of dual channel on the LGA1156.
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8ghz HT link?

I do not think this is real as much as I would want it to be. I would say though that if this chip were real, using the Phenom name wouldn't imply it was a Stars core. AMD used FX name again and it sure wasn't an old FX core.

6ghz could just be what it's overclocked too and this (if you're taking your wccftech dosage of salt) could just be a screenshot showing how the chip can OC.

The big thing for me is 3dnow+. It looks like it was dropped a while ago, I have no idea why it would come back. It also looks like it's missing a TON of instructions:

SSE 4.1, SSE 4.2, AES, AVX, XOP, FMA3, FMA4, are missing and AMD-IV exists for some reason while my FX says it has AMD-V but doesn't have AMD-IV.

What's really kind of hilarious about this rumor is that the only fab I can find that offers 25nm is IMFT, which is a cooperative between Intel and Micron for flash memory.

For anyone who is interested, the chip checks out as Family 20, Model 5-5, Stepping 5, and Revision ES-E7.

Meaning that if it is a real chip, it's been something that's been tweaked and tweaked and tweaked without making it to market a lot.

Also worth noting is that Piledriver and Bulldozer both fall into Family 15h, but it looks like this chip (on the slim chance that it's actually real) while this one is 20h, meaning it could be something completely different than the Piledriver we know today.

But things just don't add up. The HT link is what really irks me, HT 3.1 can only do 3.2ghz. I don't even know how 8ghz HT is possible.
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