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I'm in audio production, so I am sorry but I can't help my opinion.... I've heard so many different headphones, microphones, speakers, etc that I would, at this point in my life, feel justified in calling myself "an appropriate source of information". Now, there is always a subjective quality to "what sounds good", but there IS an objective aspect as well. Simply put, having done tear-downs of super-cheap to the most-expensive (sans Sennheiser) "gaming headsets", which can go upwards of $250+, I can tell you right now that:
A) a decent pair of $50-75 headphones from a reputable manufacturer (AT, Beyer, et al) has truly quality drivers, yet even the $250 gaming headset had some of the absolute cheapest drivers I've ever seen, not to mention the supporting components
B) microphones used on "gaming headsets" cost between $0.80 and $4.90 a piece; compare that to a Mod Mic or a Blue Yeti (regular/Pro), the latter currently on sale for $75 @ Woot and is beyond good; I use it for a lot of the recording sessions I do for bands, for their MASTERS
C) the second you put more than one driver in one side of a headphone is the second it loses any semblance of quality... exactly how surround sound works is very complicated, but suffice to say it cannot be reproduced by cramming a bunch of tiny drivers into headphones just a few millimeters apart from another
D) a good sound card like a Titanium HD will further expand on a good set of headphones (AD700's) with something like CMSS-3D which uses binaural audio to create a true surround effect; add the practically unbeatable sound stage of the ATH-AD700's and you get a setup ALMOST as good as "real" 11.2ch surround sound in an acoustically tuned room

Also, I am far from an audiophile... I love music, and I love helping people make music, but to me, "Audiophile" is insulting because, well, I am not some idiot who spends $500 on speaker cables thinking it will do ANYTHING for the quality of the sound. Sure, I have quite a bit of high end gear (i.e. Sonus Faber Cremona Auditors and Auditor M's, Grado RS1i/PS1000/GS1000's, etc), as well as stuff that "audiophiles" turn their nose up at then promptly squat and defecate on (my beloved Cerwin Vega VE12's, RTR Digital V Model 20) but it's for my own enjoyment and I never shove my opinion in people's faces. There are always multiple answers to these kinds of questions.

I have posted a lot of answers to a lot of different questions on these forums, and I really feel at this point I shouldn't have to defend myself... But, still...

That's a great post and you shouldn't need to defend yourself on any post that's similar than this, it's quality. I'm somebody who know's a little about music and headphones. I knew that that a pair of Sennheiser or anything would out do a headset in general.

I'm thinking of buying the Razer Electra head set, mainly because I've never been a hard core gamer and I'm not sure I will be playing game's like COD a lot. The RPG and Arma/battlefield style of gameplay is what I like, so teamwork. The Electra's are only $55 and to me have great features like the removable cord, so they will last longer. Not to be a 'swag-fag' but the Electra's look a lot cooler to take along with me to school than a pair of JVC's or Sennheiser. I'm just looking around to buy an adaptor so I can use the inline mic on my PC, can't seem to find one in Australia. Later on if I get in to gaming a bit more I can buy an good headset, or maybe just buy a Desktop mic which should be better than any headset mic. The Electra's also have great sound for listening to Music.
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Through my own preferences, audio is a huge part of gaming. I used to play Counter-Strike: Source semi-professionally in CAL-I and CAL-IM back in the day. Being able to hear footsteps or noises coming from a precise location was a HUGE factor in being able to overpower another player or team. I've kept that mindset since and still fork up a good sum amount for great audio for gaming.
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I didnt hear that attitude in either post....what they say is true as the OP asked if a good headset was part of gaming and to get the total 'experience' yes it is. I read recommendations, not comparisons. Honesty, I'm not sure what you think you read, but their posts certainly didn't come off as snobbish. For the record I agree, the best setup is a noise cancelling clip on Mic and a good set of quality headphones. I use the same setup myself as any set of 'gaming' headphones I've ever tried have been complete trash, sound quality and build quality wise. One was a Razer brand - I think the first ones they made. They are so bad I can't find them on their site anymore, I think they were called barracudas or something. The other were icemat and they were crap too.
Well, mabye I took it the wrong way in this thread, however if you ever post a thread in the "audio forum" recommending any of the commerical "gaming headsets" you get all kinds of grief about how they suck and don't reproduce the pure audio integrity of their more upscale audio headphone cans.

The thing is... as far as the gaming experience goes, I've used both, and honestly for gaming only I get better feedback from my teammates on the voice quality of a dedicated USB microphone that has good noise cancellation properties. I have used clip on mics before and they are mostly trash... I've used desk boom mics before and gotten complaints that they could hear everything in my room (from the clicks of the keyboard to the cat meowing in the background......and yes, they can be THAT sensitive). Either way, for a good gaming experience it takes a combination of both your sound coming from your headset and the clarity of your speaking voice. I've never had any problems hearing positional sounds in my games... so pretty much telling me that those aspects of the higher end audio cans is kinda moot at that point (now I will never argue that my gaming headset will reproduce true music to the perfection of higher end audio cans...) if you were buying for both purposes then I wouldn't advise a gaming headset as the ultimate solution... however for just gaming they do a more than adequate job and I just don't think they get enough credit on this (especially if you have to use them on multiple rigs like when I switch between my desktop and my laptop when I am on the go... since I don't have the same audio card quality in my laptop, yet the USB headset works just as well in either machine.

We all have our opinions... and as far as opinions go, they are all right to ourselves. Your mileage may vary.



BTW... I also judge headsets by their durability as well. I've had Icemats before and they virutally fell apart within a year or two.... My current G930s have been running strong for a year plus now. Physically they are pretty durable (especially since I use them about 4 to 6 hours everyday... that's a lot of putting them on and taking them off... plus you have to factor in comfort level during long gaming stretches. I had a pair of Corsair headsets that would hurt my ears after 2 hours of gaming... and I couldn't throw them far enough away. Either way, you just have to get what is right for you and your needs.
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