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Originally Posted by tmaxx123 View Post

thanks slappy! i am using these settings with my monitor on the Ps4 (overkill i know) and they really help. Much appreciated!

i do have one question though, what is the "ccd" value??

My apologies. I meant cd/m value. It is the brightness of the image on the screen. My goof up, when i was typing that I was rushing to get it posted before I ran out the door. rolleyes.gif


Depending on the brightness in your room, you might want to try my earlier calibration. It was created for brighter light.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1415978/rdr-benq-xl2420te-144hz-professional-gaming-monitor/120#post_21023222
Edited by Slappy Mcgee - 3/19/14 at 7:43am
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I now recommend the BENQ XL2420Z (the Z suffix) which is even better than the T and TE monitor...

Provided you get the V2 firmware preinstalled, which is compatible with the new Blur Busters Strobe Utility -- it makes it better than LightBoost.
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Originally Posted by mdrejhon View Post

I now recommend the BENQ XL2420Z (the Z suffix) which is even better than the T and TE monitor...

Provided you get the V2 firmware preinstalled, which is compatible with the new Blur Busters Strobe Utility -- it makes it better than LightBoost.

How so?

Also, the TE set me back $270. The Z is $400. So...is it $130 better?
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

How so?
Also, the TE set me back $270. The Z is $400. So...is it $130 better?
Depends on whether LightBoost is important to you.
If you need a brighter and more colorful "LightBoost", then $130 is important.
But if you don't use LightBoost or BENQ Blur Reduction, then it's not important.

BENQ Blur Reduction Version 2 (in XL2420Z V2 and XL2720Z V2) has better colors than LightBoost without a color tint, and with Strobe Utility can be brighter than LightBoost=100% or can be clearer than LightBoost=10%. Double image issue is mostly gone in V2 after recalibration via Strobe Utility.

There are some good testimonials, including:
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Originally Posted by LogicElite 
Being one of the first to receive this screen (public release), pre-orderer on dec-2013 and delivered on the first January week. I was unsatisfied for a 500$ monitor.. and when I noticed the poor motion blur reduction configuration and results I was very close to return this screen.

Stock V1:
Very Dark strobing (can't even play some game since the screen was too dark.. like BF4...);
Poor color (using the ICC profile on the BenQ cd..);
Lots of crosstalk.

What I've done:
Ordered the MSTAR unit and flashed from V1 to V2 with the support and procedure from chief (thanks again mate);
Installed the BlurBusters Strobe Utility;
Installed the ICC profile from TFTcentral DB;
Made the custom resolution (120hz and set the total vertical pixel to 1350);
Configured Strobe Utilty for my game while the game was running on the other monitor (would love to have the ability to save and manage custom profiles and maybe a future integration with BenQ Display Pilot.. who knows... smile.gif );

Results:
And can strobe even in 60hz, my games now using strobing and they have brightness how high I wish and REAL-TIME control;
Less crosstalk since is now controlled as I WISH by the utility;
Very nice color (close from my other monitor - Dell UltraSharp U2412M)

Everything that I gamer or an enthusiast would expect from a monitor!
seriously, with Strobe Utility, it's like a totally new screen!
Some info on BENQ's website, if you own a Z-series and want to get it upgraded to V2 for free by BENQ: http://info.benq.us/blog/benq-america-corp-announces-xl-z-series-gaming-monitor-firmware-update-and-support-for-authorized-third-party-software-utilities

Of course, if you don't have a Z-series, make sure you buy one with V2 firmware already preinstalled. Then you're all ready.

TL;DR: If you are a LightBoost user, the Z-Series Version 2 is a much better monitor.
Edited by mdrejhon - 3/22/14 at 12:17pm
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I have the XL2420TE and its great but I'm thinking of selling it for a triple 1080 set up. You can see some of my Titanfall game play on the XL2420TE here. http://youtu.be/8ZRucewtK3g
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Originally Posted by mdrejhon View Post

...snip...

The color tint is a little distracting, but the washed out effect is worse IMO. Does the Z fix that?

How much faster is the Z than the TE? I'm quite a fan of LB on the TE, despite the drawbacks.

Honestly, the biggest issue I have with the TE is the vertical gamma shift. Even looking dead on, the top 1/3rd of the panel is much darker than the rest. I don't suppose this has been fixed?

Most likely, I'll wait for a better panel and one that has Gsync. If the G series has an improved TN panel, I'll bite.
Edited by Jodiuh - 3/23/14 at 10:20pm
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The color tint is a little distracting, but the washed out effect is worse IMO. Does the Z fix that?
There's no color tint in BENQ Blur Reduction on the Z-Series. That's currently the big pro of BENQ Blur Reduction, versus LightBoost.

Also, with Strobe Utility, it's now possible to make it brighter than LightBoost=100% or dimmer than LightBoost=10%.
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

Honestly, the biggest issue I have with the TE is the vertical gamma shift. Even looking dead on, the top 1/3rd of the panel is much darker than the rest. I don't suppose this has been fixed?
I believe all the 24" panels all have the vertical gamma shift, a TN behavior. If the 2420G uses the same panel, it will likely have the same issue.

In my experience, the 27" 144Hz TN panels have less vertical gamma shift than the current crop of 24" 144Hz TN panels. (Logically, it really should be vice-versa).
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

The color tint is a little distracting, but the washed out effect is worse IMO. Does the Z fix that?
There's no color tint in BENQ Blur Reduction on the Z-Series. That's currently the big pro of BENQ Blur Reduction, versus LightBoost.

Also, with Strobe Utility, it's now possible to make it brighter than LightBoost=100% or dimmer than LightBoost=10%.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

Honestly, the biggest issue I have with the TE is the vertical gamma shift. Even looking dead on, the top 1/3rd of the panel is much darker than the rest. I don't suppose this has been fixed?
I believe all the 24" panels all have the vertical gamma shift, a TN behavior. If the 2420G uses the same panel, it will likely have the same issue.

In my experience, the 27" 144Hz TN panels have less vertical gamma shift than the current crop of 24" 144Hz TN panels. (Logically, it really should be vice-versa).

Got it. No tint. Check.

What about the washed out gamma gone wild effect?

Lol, whoops, I just gave some "avoid 27 inch TN" advice based on my experience with Samsungs 27A950D? Very interesting that the 27s are actually better!

Thanks again for all the help brother. So awesome to have you around here. Stay busy!
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

Got it. No tint. Check.
What about the washed out gamma gone wild effect?
No gamma bleach effect with BENQ Blur Reduction V2.
Just only loss of brightness (normal), but the contrast ratio and gamma remains exactly the same as without strobing.
You can get a lot of brightness back by raising "Persistence" in the Blur Busters Strobe Utility.
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

Lol, whoops, I just gave some "avoid 27 inch TN" advice based on my experience with Samsungs 27A950D? Very interesting that the 27s are actually better!
Not all of them, but many 27" 120Hz+ panels were better manufactured than 24" 120Hz+ panels, to the point where that the two 27" panels I have here (27" ASUS VG278H and 27" BENQ XL2720Z V2) have less vertical gamma shift than my 24" TN panels (BENQ VG248QE and 24" BENQ XL2411T).

Also, apparently, the discontinued 27A950D had much better color quality than all ASUS/BENQ 27" TN panels, but the discontinued Samsungs had much more input lag than current ASUS/BENQ 120Hz+ monitors.
Edited by mdrejhon - 3/24/14 at 2:17pm
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