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For years I was a Logitech fan but that company has screwed me over so many times I don't even want a single thing made by them in my house. Every year they get away with making cheaper and cheaper products with worse quality control, but demanding the same prices. So no more, Logitech can go eat a D.

So I need help finding a new keyboard that isn't Logitech. Right now I have a really cheap $10 keyboard but its really awful and I need to find something and get it within two weeks so I can take this thing back. I tried looking but good lord there are so many choices, fan boys, and conflicting information, and I only have a week to choose something! I need help.

I'm looking for something that is:
  1. Wireless
  2. Integrated palm rest
  3. Well made with hardy well made parts and good quality control (Please no cheap micro switches that fall apart, tiny screws and poorly designed screw anchors that don't hold and break, thin plastic that easy flexes and pops out of place, and letters that rub off)
  4. Full keyboard including full number pad and shortcut keys including media control
  5. Any shade of black, grey, or silver, or a combination of those colors. Please no bright colors.
  6. Under $90
  7. Quiet. Sorry but I have ADD and mechanical keyboards distract me. Too noisy.
  8. Would be nice if I could get glowing keys since I work, type, and game in the dark

The last Logitech keyboard I bought fell apart after only 6 months and I don't want a replacement, I want a different keyboard by a company I can actually trust. Same thing happened with the last mouse I got from them. Right now I'm using a cheap temporary Logitech mouse I'll replace after I get a keyboard replacement, but its important that I find a keyboard by this weekend. frown.gif

If anyone can helpful, I'd be so thankful....
Edited by Drahadis - 8/7/13 at 5:02am
post #2 of 8
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Forgot to mention, the reason I need wireless is because I'm using a theater set up. So no desk. Keyboard goes in my lap. mouse on the cushion on my right and one day I'd like to find a keypad that can go on my left. Works a lot better than you'd think and I'm very used to it. I can't use a wire because it gets caught up in my feet and rips the cord right out of the keyboard or out of the computer, damaging either or both ends. Worse, I broke a USB socket on my PC by doing this. That's why I moved to wireless.

Since switching from wired to wireless, I haven't noticed any kind of difference in lag at all with any kind of lag, and I've never had batteries run out in the middle of an intense battle. This whole wired or nothing option for games seems to me to be total hokum.
post #3 of 8
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The only two keyboards I can find that are well made are the Microsoft Microsoft Comfort Desktop 5000 and Microsoft Wireless Desktop 2000. Unfortunately they both have a retarded F key layout that makes no sense. I bet those are impossible to find in the dark, especially since the keys aren't illuminated! Oo What were they thinking when they designed that!?
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Hello?
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Someone just told me the reason I'm not getting any replies is because I mentioned gaming in this thread and everyone is under the illusion you can't game with wireless.... and that's a load of horse dung. I've been gaming with wireless mice and keyboards for years and I've never had any problems with lag, connection issues, or batteries dying in the middle of a fight. And if anyone does that that problem, its not because ALL wireless sucks. Its because the company who made that particular device did a really lousy job with their product and probably only care about the buttom line, instead of the quality of their products, the integrity of their company, or their own customers.

That's exactly why I'm not buying anything from Logitech anymore and I'm boycotting them. They used to be the best in the second half of the 90's... but slowly over the years they've been making worse and worse products with thinner and thinner plastics and cheaper and cheaper parts. Everything I've bought from them has been getting worse over the years, until now when I buy a keyboard for them and I can actually rip it apart just by twisting it. Total lack of any quality like that is inexcusable. So don't just assume all wireless is bad, get angry at the companies who don't care about their products and just boycott them. Those companies care too much about money not to listen when you stop giving it to them.

Is anyone going to at least try to help me find a good wireless keyboard? Would it help if I said, just forget I said gaming?
post #6 of 8
It's more likely that people don't have a suggestion for you. I can go look up wireless keyboards that fit what you want but never having used it I would be basing my opinion off of another person's opinion, not really a great recommendation. Also many of the wireless keyboards are rather cheaply made and poor quality. Not all, but many. Just doing a quick look at Newegg and Amazon, I wouldn't buy any of the wireless keyboards I see there, they all look extremely cheap and poorly made. Not even delving into the media keys and palm rest requirements.
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THANK YOU. You're absolutely right! Why is it like this!? At this point I'm ready to settle for the Microsoft 5000. It really is well made and feels like a brick when you pick it up. The only downfall is the awful ESC key and the F keys. I would love to punch who ever designed that keyboard. What a schmuck. I don't want to accidentally press the ESC key when I mean to press the ~ key, and on that keyboard its going to be very easy to do in the dark if you're used to feeling around the ~ key, remembering that its the top left key, before the keys end at the space before the ESC key and F Keys. I also play some strategy games and a lot of those games use F keys for organizing units into groups. Using F keys for that is easy to do in the dark cause you can always find them in the dark. Also there are lots of games....TONS, in fact I think most, that use the F keys for save, load, and quick load/saving. That is going to be a giant pain in the ass. Fortunately Walmart carries it for only $49 and I can price match that at the Office Max around the corner from me that wants.... get this... $80!!! I wonder how long that chain will stay open. They'll probably have to sell out to another store chain like Staples or Office Depot. If they need to charge nearly double as most of the stores I've browsed, then they're obviously falling on hard times.

I was right, I just looked it up on Wiki. They're not doing so good, and they're already merging with Office Depot:

Revenue
Decrease US$ 7.1 billion (FY 2011)
Operating income Decrease US$ 86.4 million (FY 2011)
Net income Decrease US$ 34.8 million (FY 2011)
Total assets Decrease US$ 1.9 billion (FY 2011)
Total equity Decrease US$ 569 million (FY 2011)

Merger with Office Depot
It was announced February 20, 2013, that OfficeMax and Office Depot would combine in an all-stock deal, creating the largest U.S. office-supplies chain.[27] However, as of May 2, 2013, a lawsuit filed by a stockholder, Hollander v. OfficeMax Inc et al., U.S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois, No. 13-3330 was filed to block the merger, which would pay all Office Max shareholders 2.69 shares of Office Depot in exchange for a single share in Office Max. Eric Hollander said in a statement "OfficeMax, if properly exposed to the market for corporate control, would bring a price materially in excess of the amount offered in the proposed transaction..."[28] Office Depot said on May 5, 2013 that it would hold a special meeting with shareholders after the staff of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission finishes reviewing documents relating to its merger with OfficeMax.
Edited by Drahadis - 8/10/13 at 7:14pm
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I ended up getting the Microsoft 5000.... and you know, I have to say.... it does take a lot of getting used to, but overall its a really nice keyboard. Well made, comfortable, feels solid, lots of added functions and extra buttons that make using windows, browsers, and media players more convenient. I really like the assignable hot keys that can be programmed to open or execute nearly anything.

True... who ever designed it may have never used a keyboard before and didn't understand that REAL computer users and gamers who are going to spend extra money on a keyboard need the escape key and F keys to be more pronounced and organized... meh. Maybe someone will make replacement keys for the Esc and F keys. If someone did this, I'd pay for it and I'm sure there'd be a market for it. Anyone here who knows how to mold plastic and make stuff... or anyone with a 3D printer? biggrin.gif I'm sure a lot of people would buy them. Would make this keyboard PERFECT. Its pretty perfect in every other way, just not that.

Either that or a wireless battery powered keyboard light would work. Anyone know of any? Something I can stick on the underside that loops around and has a few LED lights maybe?
Edited by Drahadis - 8/16/13 at 1:54am
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