http://www.techpowerup.com/188572/global-pc-gaming-hardware-sales-shrug-off-pc-market-decline-jpr.htmlIn a challenged PC market one user group is standing firm against the winds of change blowing many casual computer users to the "good enough" mindset behind sales of tablets and cloud computing devices-PC gamers. PC gamers continue to buy and build with a fervency that could be compared to motorcycle, 4X4, and sports car enthusiasts, always looking for more speed, power, utility, and handling.
Jon Peddie, President of JPR said, "Not only is gaming becoming an even more important purchasing influence of PC sales due to the offloading of more basic functionality to smart devices, but we are forecasting growth in the most expensive discrete graphics products. We are also impressed with the embedded graphics offerings this generation and going forward."
Ted Pollak, Senior Gaming Analyst at JPR said, "The effect that key titles have on hardware sales is phenomenal. Enthusiast PC Gamers embrace content creation and modding, so when titles like Bohemia Interactive's ARMA 3 are in the pipeline, we start to see anticipatory hardware sales. In fact, we are estimating over $800 million of PC builds influenced primarily by this title. A major component of this situation is that many games are placing increasing demands on the CPU. The result is that swapping out the graphics add-in board is not enough this time around and gamers are building (and ordering) overclocked PC's from the ground up."
Quote:The result is that swapping out the graphics add-in board is not enough this time around and gamers are building (and ordering) overclocked PC's
Quote:swapping out the graphics add-in board is not enough
What is this strange languagegraphics add-in board
Whats strange about it? You can find it right on AMD and Nvidia's websites.
^that's pretty hilarious hahahahahaThere can never be a "Fast Enough" home computer! I use the following metric to describe Consumer computer performance: Barely Acceptable > Slow > Very Slow > AMD > Dead Slow > Pretty Damn Archaic > C64 Slow.
ARMA is a prime PC exclusive. I see Arma 3 sneak into the top10 of steam quite often. I didn't realize that translated to $800m of PC parts though
Sounded crazy to me at first too.
Not so much about the Hardware, more like R&D. Big Bore Hardware budgets has been overtaken by mobile R&D at more companies than you'd think. On that end, desktops really don't have the innovation mobile based solutions have, and to be honest there is no real need for it by the home user, desktops are already overpowered as it is.
Yep, outside of gaming I don't think I do anything that needs anything better then my old core 2 duo rig.Originally Posted by Phil~
Not so much about the Hardware, more like R&D. Big Bore Hardware budgets has been overtaken by mobile R&D at more companies than you'd think. On that end, desktops really don't have the innovation mobile based solutions have, and to be honest there is no real need for it by the home user, desktops are already overpowered as it is.
Nah, (link). I don't think (link) they see any kind of sponsorship profit in there (link) at all... (link)Originally Posted by clubber_lang
This line here really caught my eye .......
" The effect that key titles have on hardware sales is phenomenal. Enthusiast PC Gamers embrace content creation and modding, so when titles like Bohemia Interactive's ARMA 3 are in the pipeline, we start to see anticipatory hardware sales. In fact, we are estimating over $800 million of PC builds influenced primarily by this title. "
I'm a noob to basically anything computer or how the world of PC markets actually work....BUT , with that being said......If Game developers created some kickass game that brought in 800 million in revenue to the hardware companies.......do the game developers get any kind of kick back from it? Kind of a dumb question I guess since there would be no way to prove that " Their game influenced hardware purchases " I guess......but still. You would think maybe some of that could trickle down to the consumers ( us ) with the hardware companies flipping some coin towards the Game developers.....to create " better and cheaper " games?
I know....I'm living in a fantasy world here. Just a thought that ran through my head when i read the article.
You're lowballing on the monitors. It would be more like 2.5K for triple screen setup. Or did you think 1080p monitors were high end?Originally Posted by aramisathei
Sounded crazy to me at first too.
If you think about it though, 1k per Titan, 1k for 3970X/4960X, 1k [minimum] for a high-end triple gaming monitor setup...
Even a relatively small segment of all-out system builders (with no cost restrictions) could understandably hit the $800m mark.
pretty much, also the "journalists" that tend to act like soothsayers predicting the end of the desktop PC seem to forget that content creation is impossible on thier measely mobile or lightweight platforms.Originally Posted by OverclockerFox
You're lowballing on the monitors. It would be more like 2.5K for triple screen setup. Or did you think 1080p monitors were high end?
Or were you just thinking of catleap monitors?
It's odd, I was just reading about this on Maximum PC earlier today. I am impressed how someone has woken up and smelled the coffee in the PC analyst business. There's far too many airheads crowing about the death of the desktop.
The other implication of this article is something I've long understood instinctively from learning about this industry. Namely, that the bottom end of the market is getting eaten by mobile and tablets. The high end will stay high end, and you'll see fewer lower end parts and builds being sold/assembled as a whole.
I'd say 90% of triple monitor setups are 22" or 24" screens. That would be even less than a grand.Originally Posted by OverclockerFox
You're lowballing on the monitors. It would be more like 2.5K for triple screen setup. Or did you think 1080p monitors were high end?
Or were you just thinking of catleap monitors?
It's odd, I was just reading about this on Maximum PC earlier today. I am impressed how someone has woken up and smelled the coffee in the PC analyst business. There's far too many airheads crowing about the death of the desktop.
The other implication of this article is something I've long understood instinctively from learning about this industry. Namely, that the bottom end of the market is getting eaten by mobile and tablets. The high end will stay high end, and you'll see fewer lower end parts and builds being sold/assembled as a whole.
This was just a ballpark figure to show where the $800m could come from--not like I took a poll or anything.
Exactly this.
No such thingOriginally Posted by Phil~
Not so much about the Hardware, more like R&D. Big Bore Hardware budgets has been overtaken by mobile R&D at more companies than you'd think. On that end, desktops really don't have the innovation mobile based solutions have, and to be honest there is no real need for it by the home user, desktops are already overpowered as it is.
I dropped close to probably 5K on my setup. That said, it's only about 3 times more than a regular consumer's "good" setup. I still see $800 million as a very, very high number. You would need 160 thousand people building 5K setups to reach 800 million.Originally Posted by aramisathei
Sounded crazy to me at first too.
If you think about it though, 1k per Titan, 1k for 3970X/4960X, 1k [minimum] for a high-end triple gaming monitor setup...
Even a relatively small segment of all-out system builders (with no cost restrictions) could understandably hit the $800m mark.
Exactly.Originally Posted by t00sl0w
pretty much, also the "journalists" that tend to act like soothsayers predicting the end of the desktop PC seem to forget that content creation is impossible on thier measely mobile or lightweight platforms.
heck, the very magazine, or website they write for wouldnt exist in its current form if there wasnt some high end desktop PCs somewhere chugging away doing web design, magazine layouts, photo editing, etc.
if the high end dies, so does michael bay, he wont be able to create massively insane CGI explosions anymore.