Originally Posted by Mike395
When people say that something is "forced" in the context that it is used in this thread, they mean that it is forced in order to purchase and/or use the product, not that Microsoft is actually coming into people's homes and installing the Kinect in their living room. I think I can safely make that assumption because it is the only way for such a statement to make sense.
Edit: To explain further, if someone says "I don't like XBone because they're forcing Kinect on us" or something of the sort, it's equivalent to saying "I don't like XBone because if one is to buy one, one needs to also purchase and use Kinect" which is a reasonable gripe unless you're of the sort who thinks people should never express dislike of anything. Trying to tell these people that they have the option not to buy one is missing the point entirely.
It isn't possible to force somebody to use something, when use of that thing stems only from your choice to use it.
If you don't want to use it, then you may choose not to. That's literally the opposite of having something forced on you.
The only way you could feel forced in such a situation was if you felt entitled in some way to have the product designed to your personal preference and that you had the right to have it that way. Instead of the reality which is that you are presented with products and you buy what you want. Just like it always has been.
In reality though, basically every product ever made is (if we continue with this dramatized definition) being "forced" upon people. Its just that some people will like what's being "forced" and some people will not. No one product will ever satisfy everybody, nor will it be tailor made for one person (unless sold as such), which means every product ever made is by your very definition being "forced" onto some consumer somewhere. Because by this logic, personally not approving of a product is the direct equivalent of having it forced upon all consumers.
The people who don't like it/parts of it/the hair style of the CEO will claim its being "forced" on them and the people who welcome it will see it as something the product "offers" to them.
Which means that having things "forced" onto consumers is not the actual problem (its actually the norm), its that not everybody will like what a product offers/forces (I guess those two words are interchangeable now lol).
Attempting to assert that all of a sudden "forcing" things onto consumers is a universal problem just because this one product that has come offers something that you don't like, makes you a hypocrite and a stereotypically fickle consumer.
My Galaxy S3 forces(offers) NFC and GPS on(to) me. If I like it, "forcing" those things onto me is good! If I don't like it, all of a sudden raaaargh they're forcing things onto consumers they shouldn't do that! *isrrrdskfksggggggraaaghhhhh negative buzzwords etc*
The reality is that you
just don't like the product they're offering("forcing") to everybody
. And that's okay. The embellishments like "forcing x down my throat" that go along with it just come across as one sided whiney babble specifically designed to disregard the fact that other people have their own opinions on the subject and paint it as universally bad in all circumstances and in every way.
Did you quote the wrong person because almost everything you typed was irrelevant or only just about
related to what you were replying to?Edited by GrizzleBoy - 8/12/13 at 7:05am