Originally Posted by boredgunner
I'm guessing you weren't a gamer 10 years ago or more? Or perhaps you don't play many games, or play very different games. Let's see:
Well, I haven't played a ton of games, but I have played games from 10 years ago
I remember playing TMNT on my Sega, Duck Hunt, ummm my first PC games were Warrior Kings, Starcraft, and that Egyptian Pharaoh civlization-esque game that was super addictive! I was also a big fan of Command and Conquer Renegade and Quake series down the years. Of course I played a lot more games in the last 6 years, but I wouldn't say I'm too new to the scene, though still fairly young compared to some oldies on this Forum
RPGs: The Witcher series is the new thing. Compared to Dragon Age or any quality D&D RPG, it doesn't really have to be said how dumbed down overall gameplay mechanics are. There's only one class and one way to define your character, it's more like a normal action-adventure game with a leveling system shoehorned in. This leads to less replay value. Environment is much less immersive than real RPGs like Dragon Age, since the world is much more linear, much less detailed, and the player has much less influence over the world through choices and decisions. Character development is one-dimensional, storytelling is more linear than real RPGs. Dumbed down in every imaginable way. If this keeps up, RPGs will be another dead genre in a few years, save for indie RPGs.
Well I would have to say that the RPG scene has gone terribly down the hill recently. So I do agree with you. TBH my favorite RPG was a Russian Allods series. Loved the story and the gameplay. Soooo addicting. Especially the second one, Master of Souls! Man, hard to believe it was released in 1999. It was too much fun for that. Nowdays? I'm not sure whether I attribute my dislike of RPGs to my growing up and simply losing interest of the genre, or whether it has truly gone downhill like you say.
Shooters: CoD/Battlefield era? Even compare BF3 to BF2 and you'll see the oversimplification. Or take it a step forward and compare them to the likes of Crysis/Crysis Wars, or Natural Selection 1 and 2. CoD/Battlefield and many of these other "dumbed down" casual games are designed so that anyone and their mother can just jump in and do well. Mainstream gaming wasn't like this before.
Compared to my multiplayer experience of 2003-2009, I have to say that I enjoy today's shooters far more. Because honestly, 1.6 is just nowhere near as fun as Source or GO. I have some really fond memories of BF 1942, but I have even better memories of BF3. I guess, different age, different tastes
I don't find anything wrong about your opinion, because there are many who share it. However, having grown up in the last decade, I have only seen games get better and better for me. It was especially nerve-grating to watch mods for Rome:Total War finish in the last couple of years. Having grown up with the game, it's matured really well like fine wine!
Horror: Mostly a dead genre, but people call Dead Space games horror games, when they're really just low quality corridor shooters. Once upon a time, horror games were known for well-written stories, amazing yet terrifying atmosphere, and challenging gameplay, but Dead Space provides none of those, not to mention no actual scares.
Don't know if I agree with you, Dead Space was pretty scary for me
:D:D I wouldn't know though, I'm not a big fan of the Horror genre. I think I got seriously turned off horror after I played Doom a few times. Just never got into it.
Like you said, the demand for more challenging, more thought-provoking, and more diverse games is not there, which is the problem I see in today's industry. Most people want their games to be the same thing; look at the CoD/Battlefield rehashes. They also don't want to have to think when playing them: they don't want a well written story, or any type of challenge whatsoever. They prefer it if the games do most of the work for them.
Games have also gotten extremely expensive to make, though that's due to publishers going with awful advertising campaigns and making it a necessity to hire well known voice actors. You have to know gaming is in a bad spot when developers are scared to use innovation or create new IPs.
It would be great if gaming was actually moving forward, so that's where I'd like to see the future of gaming to go. It would be awesome if real RPGs were more dominant, or if shooters like NS2/Crysis Wars and ArmA were more popular than CoD/Battlefield, or if horror made a bigger comeback, or if developers weren't scared to be innovative, and if developers actually focused on quality over quantity. But this won't happen, it looks like it will keep going downhill for now. At least I still have a ton of games to play.
I think it's pretty unfair for you to say that there simply aren't any good stories out there. This is coming from the guy who thinks that Blizzard completely crapped their SC story. It's gone from an epic tale to a romance flick. To be honest, I find Halo, Mass Effect, Dead Space, and Borderlands very well written and told. Same with games like Battlefield and CoD. Sure their narrative isn't the most compelling but I see the appeal. Was it masterfully written to the point of inducing tears when characters died? No, of course not, but I found the story and the premise interesting enough to buy every single game. Yes, the whole deal with evil Russians has been overdone to death in both cinema and FPS, but it's still entertaining to watch.
I mean, I know that many film buffs complain about how the film industry has gone completely to hell. Does it bother me? Of course not, I'd rather see the film for myself and pass judgement. People say After Earth is a horrible movie, I think After Earth has some interesting moments. The universe is interesting enough. On the other hand I find Man of Steel a complete borefest.
I do think that there is a substantial amount of truth to your opinion, but I find that that angle of approach to gaming has been overdone and overblown by many on this Forum. The Industry still produces masterpieces. Does CoD deserve the amount of revenue it gets? Not in my opinion it doesn't, but neither does Harry Potter.
Yet I still buy CoD and I still buy Harry Potter, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it. The wolrd will still have it's Citizen Kane and ArmA 3. If a niche is big enough, the market will provide the supply for the demand. Does that say anything about the way the mainstream is progressing? Well, not all of it is good, but not all of it is bad, but I don't think a step back to the old concepts is necessary to revitalize the "golden age" of gaming.
Of course I appreciate you sharing your opinion
Thanks for discussing the topic with me.