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MSI GT70 2OC-096US or Asus g750???

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Currently I am considering buying a gaming laptop. My budget is around $1500. What would be a killer machine around that price?? also i would like to know is there any heating issues with new MSI GT70 2OC-096US or Asus g750??? which one would be a better choice among msi and asus???

Well for asus my only option is going with this one ASUS ROG G750JW-DB71 due to price constrain

http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84898&vpn=G750JW-DB71&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1300

But I found few alternatives if i decide to go with msi,

GT70 2OC-096US
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152445CVF

MSI GT60 2OC-003US
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84160&vpn=9S7-16F411-003&manufacture=MSI&promoid=1300

MSI GT70 2OC-008US
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84159&vpn=9S7-176312-008&manufacture=MSI&promoid=1035

I can not find asus laptop with gtx 770m within my budget. lowest i found is for 1899.99 CAD :s ...

my another option is alienware... i got a quote from dell...only thing i dislike about this quote is the screen resolution which is 1600x900...

Item Number Quantity Item Description
210-AAPS
1 Alienware 17 Base $1,501.49
340-ABEU
1 Documentation, English
370-AANF
1 8GB Dual Channel DDR3L at 1600MHz
400-AATG
1 750GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s
429-AAGC
1 Slot-Loading 8x SuperMulti Drive (DVDR/RW)
470-AAKE
1 US 110V Power Cord
490-BBGS
1 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M with 3GB GDDR5
555-BBEQ
1 Broadcom 4352 802.11 ac 2x2 and Bluetooth 4.0
580-ABEG
1 English Keyboard
619-ACMQ
1 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, English
658-BBOD
1 Broadcom 4352 Driver
954-4175
1 Dell Hardware Warranty Plus On-Site Service, Initial Year
954-4207
1 In-Home Service after Remote Diagnosis, Parts and Labor On-Site Response, Initial Year
994-3730
1 Warranty Support, Initial Year
950-9797
1 No Warranty, Year 2 and 3
600-0043 1 NEW FEE as of May 1, 2013:Ontario $1.50 Environmental Handling Fee for Notebook Computers
332-1530 1 Dell.com Order
338-BCHU 1 4th Generation Intel(R)Core(TM)i7-4700MQ processor (6MB Cache, up to 3.4GHz w/ Intel(R)Turbo Boost)
340-ACQQ 1 Not Included
340-ADEL 1 Alienware 17 Anodized Aluminum
340-ADEV 1 Setup Instructions English
354-BBBB 1 Anodized Aluminum
389-BCCZ 1 Windows 7 Label, OptiPlex, Fixed Precision, Vostro Desktop
391-BBED 1 17.3 inch (439.42 mm) WLED HD+ (1600 x 900) Anti-Glare Display
450-AAGU 1 Power Supply : Alienware 180W AC Adapter
451-BBCB 1 8-cell Lithium Ion (86 wHr) Battery
630-AAAU 1 Software: Microsoft Office 2013 Trial
640-BBLC 1 Alienware Command Center 3.0
658-BBNS 1 System Software for Alienware M17xR1
658-BBNX 1 Additional Software
730-5515 1 Thank You for Choosing Dell
817-BBBP 1 None Required
Subtotal: $1,499.99
Shipping & Handling: $0.00
GST/HST Tax: $195.19
PST Tax: $0.00
Environmental Disposal Fee $1.50
Total Price w/Discounts: $1,696.68

Any suggestions??? which alternative is best???

P.S. Not interested in Sager!!!
Edited by apocalypse77 - 8/12/13 at 3:07am
post #2 of 16
The asus is better, better technical support, better laptop, even comes with a slightly better processor 4700hq vs 4700mq. Also it comes with more ram and if you get the better version (G750JX-DB71) you get even MORE ram and the same GPU as the MSI. Hands down the asus is much nicer especially if you get the better of the 2 models.
     
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post #3 of 16
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Well for asus my only option is going with this one ASUS ROG G750JW-DB71 due to price constrain

http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84898&vpn=G750JW-DB71&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1300

But I found few alternatives if i decide to go with msi,

GT70 2OC-096US
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152445CVF

MSI GT60 2OC-003US
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84160&vpn=9S7-16F411-003&manufacture=MSI&promoid=1300

MSI GT70 2OC-008US
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84159&vpn=9S7-176312-008&manufacture=MSI&promoid=1035

I can not find asus laptop with gtx 770m within my budget. lowest i found is for 1899.99 CAD :s ...
post #4 of 16
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my another option is alienware... i got a quote from dell...only thing i dislike about this quote is the screen resolution which is 1600x900...

Item Number Quantity Item Description
210-AAPS
1 Alienware 17 Base $1,501.49
340-ABEU
1 Documentation, English
370-AANF
1 8GB Dual Channel DDR3L at 1600MHz
400-AATG
1 750GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s
429-AAGC
1 Slot-Loading 8x SuperMulti Drive (DVDR/RW)
470-AAKE
1 US 110V Power Cord
490-BBGS
1 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M with 3GB GDDR5
555-BBEQ
1 Broadcom 4352 802.11 ac 2x2 and Bluetooth 4.0
580-ABEG
1 English Keyboard
619-ACMQ
1 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, English
658-BBOD
1 Broadcom 4352 Driver
954-4175
1 Dell Hardware Warranty Plus On-Site Service, Initial Year
954-4207
1 In-Home Service after Remote Diagnosis, Parts and Labor On-Site Response, Initial Year
994-3730
1 Warranty Support, Initial Year
950-9797
1 No Warranty, Year 2 and 3
600-0043 1 NEW FEE as of May 1, 2013:Ontario $1.50 Environmental Handling Fee for Notebook Computers
332-1530 1 Dell.com Order
338-BCHU 1 4th Generation Intel(R)Core(TM)i7-4700MQ processor (6MB Cache, up to 3.4GHz w/ Intel(R)Turbo Boost)
340-ACQQ 1 Not Included
340-ADEL 1 Alienware 17 Anodized Aluminum
340-ADEV 1 Setup Instructions English
354-BBBB 1 Anodized Aluminum
389-BCCZ 1 Windows 7 Label, OptiPlex, Fixed Precision, Vostro Desktop
391-BBED 1 17.3 inch (439.42 mm) WLED HD+ (1600 x 900) Anti-Glare Display
450-AAGU 1 Power Supply : Alienware 180W AC Adapter
451-BBCB 1 8-cell Lithium Ion (86 wHr) Battery
630-AAAU 1 Software: Microsoft Office 2013 Trial
640-BBLC 1 Alienware Command Center 3.0
658-BBNS 1 System Software for Alienware M17xR1
658-BBNX 1 Additional Software
730-5515 1 Thank You for Choosing Dell
817-BBBP 1 None Required
Subtotal: $1,499.99
Shipping & Handling: $0.00
GST/HST Tax: $195.19
PST Tax: $0.00
Environmental Disposal Fee $1.50
Total Price w/Discounts: $1,696.68

Any suggestions??? which alternative is best???
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by dmfree88 View Post

The asus is better, better technical support, better laptop, even comes with a slightly better processor 4700hq vs 4700mq. Also it comes with more ram and if you get the better version (G750JX-DB71) you get even MORE ram and the same GPU as the MSI. Hands down the asus is much nicer especially if you get the better of the 2 models.

Thanks for quick reply. Well the thing with asus is i am getting gtx 765m instead of gtx 770m :s .. as far as i know gtx 770m is much better than gtx 765m..
post #6 of 16
The ASUS has noticeably better cooling and is better-built; the MSI has more upgrade and customization options. The soldered CPU and unique MXM socket ASUS uses for the GPU allows those parts to run cooler and require less space in the G750 than similar parts in other brands, but they make upgrades impractical. I think I would choose the ASUS over the MSI.

The Alienware 17 has more upgrade options and is better-built than the GT70 and the G750, and it supports CPU overclocking and manual graphics switching in the BIOS. I don't know if it has better cooling than the G750JW.
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by Indefatigable View Post

The ASUS has noticeably better cooling and is better-built; the MSI has more upgrade and customization options. The soldered CPU and unique MXM socket ASUS uses for the GPU allows those parts to run cooler and require less space in the G750 than similar parts in other brands, but they make upgrades impractical. I think I would choose the ASUS over the MSI.

The Alienware 17 has more upgrade options and is better-built than the GT70 and the G750, and it supports CPU overclocking and manual graphics switching in the BIOS. I don't know if it has better cooling than the G750JW.

Asus uses the same MXM slot that everyone else uses and their CPUs aren't soldered. The only chips that are soldered are marked as using the BGA socket. I would call dell and tell them that you would rather get the Alienware, but the MSI model has the 1080p screen. Haggling is your friend here friend... wink.gif
   
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post

Asus uses the same MXM slot that everyone else uses and their CPUs aren't soldered. The only chips that are soldered are marked as using the BGA socket. I would call dell and tell them that you would rather get the Alienware, but the MSI model has the 1080p screen. Haggling is your friend here friend... wink.gif

Pretty much this

Also, If it's any consolation, I just got an MSI GS70 and I love it
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Asus uses the same MXM slot that everyone else uses and their CPUs aren't soldered. The only chips that are soldered are marked as using the BGA socket. I would call dell and tell them that you would rather get the Alienware, but the MSI model has the 1080p screen. Haggling is your friend here friend... wink.gif

Where did you see that? I have read otherwise.

The G750 uses an i7-4700hq, which is a BGA processor. I have not seen any resellers that offer upgrades. Also, I have not seen any indication that ASUS uses the typical MXM sockets for these laptops.
post #10 of 16
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Thanks guys. I am leaning more towards MSI...anyone know about durability of MSI?? is this laptop future proof??

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_577_1198&item_id=061851

I would like to keep this this one at least for three years!!!
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