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Project Polaris: Watercooled Kandalf

post #1 of 10
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Hi,


I've started to build my first system, and as such have decided to make a thread in this forum and try to give back a little after i have taken so much.
Also this is a place for me to post any questions i may have without having to create too many threads and annoy people.
Without further ado lets start:

I had saved some money together for a new PC, i wanted a water cooled one quite badly but since i was very new at the entire PC building as a whole, i didnt want to buy the parts individually. Thus enter the Kandalf LCS.

The case was ordered from Frozen CPU, the packing was pretty shabby and i was almost sure the damn thing had alot of scratches. Gladly this was not the case. The bracket that screws the PSU at the back of the case was a little bent but nothing very drastic.

Moreover, the case didn't come with a manual, which frustrated me a little since i am a beginner when it comes to this sort of work.

Anyway the parts that I will be using for this setup are:

Case: Kandalf LCS (Liquid Cooling System) Black
Power Supply: Antec Trio 650W
Motherboard: Asus P5B Deluxe
Hard Drives: 2x320 Seagate Baraccuda Perpendicular Raid 0 +1x250GB Western Digital Caviar
Processor: Conroe E6600
Video Card: Yet undecided, still debating weather i should get the 8800 GTX or get a mid range card first and wait for the price to go down, suggestions will be much appreciated.
RAM: OCZ 5400 GOLD (667MHz) 2x1GB
I know the ram was not the best choice for great overclocking but i got a great deal on it.
MISC:
Thermal paste : AS5, the Kandalf came with some silicon stuff, but it does not look too useful in my respects and there is very very little of it. From what I've heard AS5 is best and i intend to use that.
Project Polaris
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6600 P5B-D BFG 7900 GS OC OCZ 4x1GB Gold 667 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
4x320 Seagate 7200.10 RAID 10 + 250 Maxtor CDRW MS XP PRO 20"VX2035WM+ 20"WFP2007 
PowerCase
ANTEC TRIO 650W Thermaltake Kandalf LCS 
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E6600 P5B-D BFG 7900 GS OC OCZ 4x1GB Gold 667 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
4x320 Seagate 7200.10 RAID 10 + 250 Maxtor CDRW MS XP PRO 20"VX2035WM+ 20"WFP2007 
PowerCase
ANTEC TRIO 650W Thermaltake Kandalf LCS 
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post #2 of 10
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First things first.


I opened up the kendalf and lay the bad boy on its side. This is quite possibly the biggest case i have ever seen. I can take my entire old computer and fit it into the kendalf with room to spare. Regardles, i started by taking the HDD cage OUT, I also took off the rear 120mm fan and the motherboard backplate since it did not match the configuration of my motherboard. I subsituted the backplate with the one provided in the motherboard kit and mounted the HDDs in the HDD cage.

Secondly, I wanted to use an old PSU to test the liquid cooling system before i actually mounted it onto my computer. Thus, with some help from some OCN members i took my old PSU, popped the green and black connectors out of it and taped them together, then to see if this old psu was working, i plugged a fan into one of its connectors and plugged the old psu in. The entire contraption worked, and the fan started to spin.

Before I commenced the instalation of the motherboard, I installed the PSU. This PSU seems decent however the fact that it is only partially sleeved can get quite annoying sometimes. I had almost no trouble with the bent bracket and was able to install it without too much trouble. I also put back in the HDD cage with the HDDs attached.

Lastly for today, i have positioned the spacers for the motherboard and installed a few mylar sheets over parts of the case, since they can short the motherboard as the case itself is BTX compatible and has some iron pieces sticking out of it.

The pics will come tomorrow i promise, now its just too late. So far everything seems to be dandy, the waterblock is a little scratched up but if i get a chance i will lap it or rub AS5 the scratches, with a very very very thin layer.

If anyone has any questions or suggestions please go ahead and post, i appreaciate all the advice or constructive criticism i can get.
Project Polaris
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6600 P5B-D BFG 7900 GS OC OCZ 4x1GB Gold 667 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
4x320 Seagate 7200.10 RAID 10 + 250 Maxtor CDRW MS XP PRO 20"VX2035WM+ 20"WFP2007 
PowerCase
ANTEC TRIO 650W Thermaltake Kandalf LCS 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6600 P5B-D BFG 7900 GS OC OCZ 4x1GB Gold 667 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
4x320 Seagate 7200.10 RAID 10 + 250 Maxtor CDRW MS XP PRO 20"VX2035WM+ 20"WFP2007 
PowerCase
ANTEC TRIO 650W Thermaltake Kandalf LCS 
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post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by NoSkill View Post
Video Card: Yet undecided, still debating weather i should get the 8800 GTX or get a mid range card first and wait for the price to go down, suggestions will be much appreciated.
I'd say buy now. The R600 is a ways off, and without competition from ATI, Nvidia GPU's aren't going to drop in price by much. I'd actually would settle with a 8800GTS, since they are over 140 bucks cheaper than the GTX for a slight performance loss. However, if you do buy a midrange card, the ATI x1900GT is dropping day by day (was actually 139 a few days ago).
    
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post #4 of 10
goodluck on the project
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post #5 of 10
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Ok, a new day, time to work on the computer a little more. After installing the backplate and the spacers for the motherboard, i dropped it in the case so i could get some waterblock hose measurements.

So after I put the motherboard in, i'm trying to fit the pump in, in order to dryfit the entire thing and measure and cut the hose.

Well guess what, in the position that the manual suggests, the pump holes do not match the holes in the bottom of the case. Apparently the holes from the pump are too wide apart for them to match the holes in the case, the only thing i can do now, is to screw the reservoir (Which is in turn attached to the pump) to the bottom of the case and hope the damn thing doesnt rip apart.

This is very surprising since i thought the pump was supposed to be screwed not the reservoir, any ideas? Any kandalf LCS owners out there?

The Pump looks like this, its attached to the radiator


What I'm trying to do is make it look like this, , but oddly enough the guy who reviewd this from http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/kandalflcs/index7.php had the same issue
EDIT: apparently i Can't attach screws to the reservoir either since, the holes on the case are too close together for that as well
Project Polaris
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6600 P5B-D BFG 7900 GS OC OCZ 4x1GB Gold 667 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
4x320 Seagate 7200.10 RAID 10 + 250 Maxtor CDRW MS XP PRO 20"VX2035WM+ 20"WFP2007 
PowerCase
ANTEC TRIO 650W Thermaltake Kandalf LCS 
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Project Polaris
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6600 P5B-D BFG 7900 GS OC OCZ 4x1GB Gold 667 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
4x320 Seagate 7200.10 RAID 10 + 250 Maxtor CDRW MS XP PRO 20"VX2035WM+ 20"WFP2007 
PowerCase
ANTEC TRIO 650W Thermaltake Kandalf LCS 
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post #6 of 10
i had thermaltake cooling kit, the pump burned 3 times
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post #7 of 10
holy crap. that IS big!

Where's your radiator at?
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post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
the rad is at the front, its located on the door
Project Polaris
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6600 P5B-D BFG 7900 GS OC OCZ 4x1GB Gold 667 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
4x320 Seagate 7200.10 RAID 10 + 250 Maxtor CDRW MS XP PRO 20"VX2035WM+ 20"WFP2007 
PowerCase
ANTEC TRIO 650W Thermaltake Kandalf LCS 
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Project Polaris
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6600 P5B-D BFG 7900 GS OC OCZ 4x1GB Gold 667 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
4x320 Seagate 7200.10 RAID 10 + 250 Maxtor CDRW MS XP PRO 20"VX2035WM+ 20"WFP2007 
PowerCase
ANTEC TRIO 650W Thermaltake Kandalf LCS 
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post #9 of 10
Very nice. I am thinking of getting the exact same thing as you. E6600, Kandalf LCS, 8800GTX,P5B-D but having Dominator for RAM . Tell me how its handling the E6600 in terms of heat
    
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OCZ Vertex 2 60Gig + 4.5TB worth of drives Samsung Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 2xAsus VW266H 25.5" 
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Noskill... updates?
    
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 60Gig + 4.5TB worth of drives Samsung Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 2xAsus VW266H 25.5" 
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OCZ Vertex 2 60Gig + 4.5TB worth of drives Samsung Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 2xAsus VW266H 25.5" 
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