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It seems to me that you are someone who likes to feel they have the very latest technology as you seem to have practically every generation of processor since about 1998 in your sig. Its obvious to me that you think that AMD dual cores are obsolete simply because they are not the latest CPU available.

This is quite clearly bull****. I recently built a system with an old AMD TBird 1GHz and it runs windows near enough as fast loading windows and using general aps (Firefox, Messenger, Office, etc) as my main rig. I used PC3200 memory, and that helps alot. Please note that this isn't intended for gaming obviously. Its for my grandfather for email and webbrowsing.

A CPU doesn't become obsolete overnight. The AMD X2 and single cores are still very useable, and support 64 bit instruction sets. It is still a CPU with potential to unleash. Many AMD64 chips have never been implemented with 64-bit OS's, and once Vista is out and users are using a 64-bit OS, I think many will notice a difference, including when games come out supporting 64 bit instructions.

The point is, a CPU does not suddenly lag in games because there is another CPU better than it. The majority of CPU's right now aren't performing at their full potential due to the software they are running. Until this is resolved, I think people should carefully consider why they should upgrade at this volatile stage in the computing hardware and software industry.
You just took almost everything I said and twisted it the opposite way. You are so full of s***.
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You just took almost everything I said and twisted it the opposite way. You are so full of s***.
Everything I said was perfectly genuine. At least provide a decent response instead of jsut Im full of ****. I provide a valid point, and perhaps you should consider it rather than simply brush it off. The fact is that very few CPU's are being properly implemented at the moment.
    
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Everything I said was perfectly genuine. At least provide a decent response instead of jsut Im full of ****. I provide a valid point, and perhaps you should consider it rather than simply brush it off. The fact is that very few CPU's are being properly implemented at the moment.
All you are doing is defending AMD. No matter what we say about Intel will comeback from you negative.
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All you are doing is defending AMD. No matter what we say about Intel will comeback from you negative.
This is not about Intel Vs AMD, this is about considering whether having the latest CPU is worth the money spent and if software is even properly using the CPUs in built functions.

If it was an old Celeron or Pentium III I had then I would have used that to build the system for my grandfather. The point is, most CPU's are still up to the job when people upgrade. I upgraded from a 1GHz athlon and TNT2 32MB card coz it eventually packed in. I could still play CS 1.6 on it and Day of Defeat at 1024x1280 even if I had to have detail on low, it still gave me about 20fps which I considered playable.

This rig will probably last me a while. I might upgrade the mobo because the one I have just now isn't great for OC'ing, but it still does the job, so I might not spend the money.

Don't get me wrong, if my old Athlon TBird rig hadn't clapped out on me, Id have probably gone for a C2D build for the best performance possible - who wouldn't. I just despise spending alot of money for the latest tech then to see it drop in price in 6 months.

Alot of people upgrade unecessarily, and I'm not prepared to be a puppet to the big companies.
    
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Like I said, it is about brand new builds, not upgrades.
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for some reason I don't believe that.
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why? at 2.8ghz and funky ass ram timeings i get higher then a e6700



Oh well, might as well put mine in.



Seriously can't you all just shut up? I'm no Superman therefore I can't see the vast difference, but I as a regular OC.net member do see what these goddamn new technologies do to our once-peaceful community, which only turns into war by people like you (directing to original poster) trying to all of a sudden come into an AMD forum arguing that the C2D is much better. Quit trying to extinguish the fire with gasoline, it's not gonna work. And if you think you deserve the bragging rights, then brag about it, but don't do it in a way that'll start a war.

My opinion (NOTE: I just said "OPINION") on this is that the difference is unnoticeable. Take GR:AW for example, it's one of those game that relies heavily on physics, or F.E.A.R. for its AI, as long as you have 2Gb of memory and a good graphics card that can handle max settings, are you gonna notice the difference between 50FPS and 60FPS? Please contact the National Science Foundation if you do.
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Tech-savvy Consumer: "Yeah, err, my computer died, and I'm looking for a replacement. I only use it for work and e-mail, what would you recommend?"

Salesman: "How about this computer. It comes with a Core 2 Duo processor, which is the best processor, 2GB's of memory, and a 250GB hard drive. Only £600."

Tech-savvy Consumer: "...Why do I need the best processor?"

Salesman: "...It's the fastest processor. You'll be able to open your emails documents quicker."

Tech-savvy Consumer: "I was kinda hoping to spend a bit less than £600. More in the region of, say, £200 or £300."

Salesman: "Oh, you don't want a cheap computer. They're not as fast."


Stop being such a salesman. Try and stay in the real world, where software is pretty much winded, trying to keep up with hardware.
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Tech-savvy Consumer: "Yeah, err, my computer died, and I'm looking for a replacement. I only use it for work and e-mail, what would you recommend?"

Salesman: "How about this computer. It comes with a Core 2 Duo processor, which is the best processor, 2GB's of memory, and a 250GB hard drive. Only £600."

Tech-savvy Consumer: "...Why do I need the best processor?"

Salesman: "...It's the fastest processor. You'll be able to open your emails documents quicker."

Tech-savvy Consumer: "I was kinda hoping to spend a bit less than £600. More in the region of, say, £200 or £300."

Salesman: "Oh, you don't want a cheap computer. They're not as fast."


Stop being such a salesman. Try and stay in the real world, where software is pretty much winded, trying to keep up with hardware.
LOL that's exactly how my friend got ripped off at Fry's!!!!!

Except the salesman told my friend to get a Pentium D instead of a X2, and then I was told a couple days later and I ROFL'ed.
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