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My question is: If you have so many rigs listed in your sig, why don't you FOLD?
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post #52 of 144
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Originally Posted by Fishie36 View Post
He's not telling you to switch if you already have an X2. All he's saying is, if you're building a new system, or need a faster one, get a C2D because it's cheaper and faster if you're starting from scratch.
Cheaper? The X2 3800+ is $130 for the 65W variant, the Core 2 Duo E6300 is $190 on the egg.. Motherboards, well I know a $70~ AMD motherboard will OC good, but it seems like Intel motherboards people buy are like $90 - $100.

Just with that $50 you can step up the graphics card, or have $50 more in your pocket...
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post #53 of 144
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Cheaper? The X2 3800+ is $130 for the 65W variant, the Core 2 Duo E6300 is $190 on the egg.. Motherboards, well I know a $70~ AMD motherboard will OC good, but it seems like Intel motherboards people buy are like $90 - $100.

Just with that $50 you can step up the graphics card, or have $50 more in your pocket...
Yea but that's like comparing a celeron to a pentium D. You gotta compare AMD's of the same speed at stock. Now see which is more expensive.
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post #54 of 144
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Yea but that's like comparing a celeron to a pentium D. You gotta compare AMD's of the same speed at stock. Now see which is more expensive.
Why?

My 3800X2 at stock and my 7600GT at stock plays all my games on high, if not at 1280x1024 then at 1024x768. Buying a rig for benchmarking bragging rights is silly.. which is what I consider spending the extra money on a E6300 on as.
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post #55 of 144
Amd single cores are still sufficiant. maybe not as fast, but my old socket 754 amd 3200 could play BF2, CS:S, and all the games i play now.

two generations of tech later, x2 4000 with ddr2 and im running fine. got my proc for $160 and it is well-rounded.

amd is more of a budget computer company. cheep parts, good speeds.
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post #56 of 144
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Why?

My 3800X2 at stock and my 7600GT at stock plays all my games on high, if not at 1280x1024 then at 1024x768. Buying a rig for benchmarking bragging rights is silly.. which is what I consider spending the extra money on a E6300 on as.
Ok, you have a point. The slower CPU does not show any weaknesses right now in real-world situations and does indeed cost less. But over time, as more system intensive games come out (we know they always do), then the C2D will still be playing along just fine while the X2 runs slower. Just think of benchmarks as an indicator of how long the CPU will be usefull for in real-world situations, like you are talking about.
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post #57 of 144
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Ok, you have a point. The slower CPU does not show any weaknesses right now in real-world situations and does indeed cost less. But over time, as more system intensive games come out (we know they always do), then the C2D will still be playing along just fine while the X2 runs slower. Just think of benchmarks as an indicator of how long the CPU will be usefull for in real-world situations, like you are talking about.

The whole future proof concept has been debunked over and over. New and better things are always coming out, and in turn these new things are always rendered near obsolete by even newer things.
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Ok, I'm gonna stop arguing against the 3800+. AMD can keep that one, and I hope people that need to save the extra money will use it. But if you want a massive performance upgrade for only $50 (the price of most high end air coolers), then get the E6300.
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post #59 of 144
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Ok, I'm gonna stop arguing against the 3800+. AMD can keep that one, and I hope people that need to save the extra money will use it. But if you want a massive performance upgrade for only $50 (the price of most high end air coolers), then get the E6300.

I hope you're not making a blanket statement here. What you suggest does not really work for people with skt939/AM2 systems, unless they sell all their stuff first.
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Plus once overclocked to 3Ghz, it matches X6800 performance, with only DDR400. Just gotta love it when I can keep my old DDR.
for some reason I don't believe that.
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