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hi guys, im new , please give me an advise

i have a 120GB kingston ssd. and since i dont have any other drive all of my data,OS,games,etc are being stored at my SSD. so my question is;

1.is it safe to operate/using my PC at 0,98GB space left on my SSD? will it damaged my SSD overtime?? (im okay if the only issue is my ssd speed will decreasing as i read on the net)

2.this question is not nearly as important as the first question but ill ask anyway, btw i almost run out of space once(only couple mb's left) and then after i restart my PC why does it being back to 0,98GB?? this is soo weird .. its like my SSD magically getting bigger in size biggrin.gif... and i just tried it again (i fill my SSD near FULL then restarted and it got back to 0,98GB) plus i dont see any of my data being erased in the process

thank you
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hi guys, im new , please give me an advise

i have a 120GB kingston ssd. and since i dont have any other drive all of my data,OS,games,etc are being stored at my SSD. so my question is;

1.is it safe to operate/using my PC at 0,98GB space left on my SSD? will it damaged my SSD overtime?? (im okay if the only issue is my ssd speed will decreasing as i read on the net)

2.this question is not nearly as important as the first question but ill ask anyway, btw i almost run out of space once(only couple mb's left) and then after i restart my PC why does it being back to 0,98GB?? this is soo weird .. its like my SSD magically getting bigger in size biggrin.gif... and i just tried it again (i fill my SSD near FULL then restarted and it got back to 0,98GB) plus i dont see any of my data being erased in the process

thank you

Shouldn't be an issue, but SSD's have limited lifespan and you have no warning before they give up and die, so it's important to make regular backups to other media, unless you are ok with starting over again in the event of SSD failure.

The increase in space could be the result of temp / swap files being purged to make room
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hi guys, im new , please give me an advise

i have a 120GB kingston ssd. and since i dont have any other drive all of my data,OS,games,etc are being stored at my SSD. so my question is;

1.is it safe to operate/using my PC at 0,98GB space left on my SSD? will it damaged my SSD overtime?? (im okay if the only issue is my ssd speed will decreasing as i read on the net)

2.this question is not nearly as important as the first question but ill ask anyway, btw i almost run out of space once(only couple mb's left) and then after i restart my PC why does it being back to 0,98GB?? this is soo weird .. its like my SSD magically getting bigger in size biggrin.gif... and i just tried it again (i fill my SSD near FULL then restarted and it got back to 0,98GB) plus i dont see any of my data being erased in the process

thank you

Note, your SSD actually has 128GB but the vendor provisioned only 120GB.

1) It will not damage the SSD, but can limit the write performance of the SSD in some cases. (i.e. Lots of heavy writes in a short period).
2) The SSD might be cleaning out dirty pages to make space.

Ideally, you should leave something like 10% free.... I would try to free up 4-6 more GBs.
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Shouldn't be an issue, but SSD's have limited lifespan and you have no warning before they give up and die, so it's important to make regular backups to other media, unless you are ok with starting over again in the event of SSD failure.

The increase in space could be the result of temp / swap files being purged to make room
SSDs do provide wear information so you do have an idea when they start running out of P/E cycles. Even if you run out of P/E cycles, the data is still readable for a year. Futhermore, the wear on SSDs should be a non-concern for normal usage (under 20GB writes daily).

SSDs can die suddenly but that is usually due to a firmware bug or fault hardware.... and not wear.
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Shouldn't be an issue, but SSD's have limited lifespan and you have no warning before they give up and die, so it's important to make regular backups to other media, unless you are ok with starting over again in the event of SSD failure.

The increase in space could be the result of temp / swap files being purged to make room

whoaa you are scaring me:D... as if it will really destroy my ssd faster than normal usage

btw you were talking about SSD will die,but its "NOT" because i use my PC with red bar full on my SSD capacity status right?
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Originally Posted by Ardalista View Post

Shouldn't be an issue, but SSD's have limited lifespan and you have no warning before they give up and die, so it's important to make regular backups to other media, unless you are ok with starting over again in the event of SSD failure.

The increase in space could be the result of temp / swap files being purged to make room

Not entirely true
this website http://ssd-life.com/ has some demo software that will read the expected remaining lifespan

Expect about 7 years out of an SSD in general, with the same failure risk as spinning storage, just without some of the "mechanical" warnings that you sometimes get before they go die.


As for running the SSD near the limit, it was not advised in the past depending on how the manufacturer set it up
some SSD's kept a lot of overhead for dead bits, a 240GB would be a 256GB with overhead.
Other manufacturers gave you the whole space but recommended keeping 15-20% free.

these days I think the controllers are much better and the memory used is much better at being re-used so this is less of an issue.
so New SSD's should offer no problems at all.


The backup advice is of course perfectly sound, and the great thing about SSD's is that they backup REALLY quickly smile.gif


Good luck smile.gif


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Ok it seems it took me so long to reply everyone pretty much said it smile.gif
    
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Note, your SSD actually has 128GB but the vendor provisioned only 120GB.

1) It will not damage the SSD, but can limit the write performance of the SSD in some cases. (i.e. Lots of heavy writes in a short period).
2) The SSD might be cleaning out dirty pages to make space.

Ideally, you should leave something like 10% free.... I would try to free up 4-6 more GBs.
SSDs do provide wear information so you do have an idea when they start running out of P/E cycles. Even if you run out of P/E cycles, the data is still readable for a year. Futhermore, the wear on SSDs should be a non-concern for normal usage (under 20GB writes daily).

SSDs can die suddenly but that is usually due to a firmware bug or fault hardware.... and not wear.

ohh i felt safe after reading your post sir.

i dont think im going anywhere near 20GB write a day.. as the data just kept in there and ill do just browse,listen to music and playing games biggrin.gif
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ohh i felt safe after reading your post sir.

i dont think im going anywhere near 20GB write a day.. as the data just kept in there and ill do just browse,listen to music and playing games biggrin.gif

For music... why keep it on the SSD?
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For music... why keep it on the SSD?

well its the only drive i have at the moment.. my itunes packed like 40gb and there's still bunch of it on clouds not counting tv series/movies
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well its the only drive i have at the moment.. my itunes packed like 40gb and there's still bunch of it on clouds not counting tv series/movies

Is this a laptop?

If not, get a HDD for your media. tongue.gif
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