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[PA] Microsoft Details How The Xbox One Will Handle High Temperatures

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Most of us who have owned Microsoft’s Xbox 360 console knows that the system was not designed to handle high temperatures very well. The 360 would get so hot that it would actually warp the motherboard which sat on that ridiculous X-clamp. This would snap the solder around the systems GPU which would then unseat itself and cause the infamous red ring of death. Just thinking about it brings back horrible memories.

In an effort to be as “transparent with the user” as possible, Microsoft’s manager of console development Leo del Castillo has laid out how the Xbox One will tackle issues of high temperatures.

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That's a loss for microsoft, I bet their engineers found an other way to kill the box.
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That's a loss for microsoft, I bet their engineers found an other way to kill the box.

how? that article was pure speculation, "what if the fan is not big enough"

we have no way of knowing what microsoft has done to the PCB, solder, cooler clamp and such to prevent the vanilla Xbox 360 heat issue.
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It says it throttles the power, which means the cpu or gpu is going to take a big performance hit. So they are hoping that it instead of a red ring of death, people will be happy with an Xbox One that can't play games at full speed, but you won't know it has a heat problem because it still works.

Plus they can say, it still works, then no need to repair it, it's not broken. lol
    
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Let's hope they get it right the first time.

I've had to fix countless X-Box 360s, but only one Slim as of yet.
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You guys doh.gif

This is nothing more than just a fail-safe put in place, just like Intel CPU's or Samsung SG4's screen, that throttles at a certain point.

Now just because Intel's CPU's throttle at 105C, does that mean that "OMG what a fail they're going to impact my PC performance!"

No...it's a "good, I don't want to damage my PC anyways, I'm probably using too much voltage, my heatsink can't handle it right, or I need to delid" or in Samsung's case, you need to lower the brightness temporarily to protect the phone from further heat damage.

These are RARE scenarios. This fail-safe is for the user that keeps his/her house at 90F (32.2C) and their Xbox in an unventilated plastic box, wrapped in blankets.

You're on a tech enthusiast website, yet just because this thread has a potential to bash Microsoft more, you completely throw away all prior knowledge that this same feature is present on MOST all other devices -_- It doesn't mean that their performance is hindered for everybody. It's just a protection against those extreme circumstances that usually don't apply to the majority of other users.

It's quite petty these days.
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These are RARE scenarios. This fail-safe is for the user that keeps his/her house at 90F (32.2C) and their Xbox in an unventilated plastic box, wrapped in blankets.

Well it may be rare, but if it does happen one time to someone then it is going to happen a lot.

And most console users have no knowledge of anything tech related so they aren't going to know to move the console for better airflow or whatever. They will just leave it and it will happen every time if it happens once.

I foresee people complaining about their xbones running slowly.
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i don't see this as an issue.

the xbone has a single chip solution with a decent layout



the xbox 360 had a horrible layout and the dvd drive covered the gpu heatsink...

not really a good way to keep temps low.



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Well it may be rare, but if it does happen one time to someone then it is going to happen a lot.

And most console users have no knowledge of anything tech related so they aren't going to know to move the console for better airflow or whatever. They will just leave it and it will happen every time if it happens once.

I foresee people complaining about their xbones running slowly.

Just to mention, in case you or somebody else missed the source, downclocking only occurs AFTER an attempt to squander the heat by revving the fan speed way up.
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The way we designed the box, we don’t actually intend it to ever have (the fans) to go to maximum speed under normal environmental conditions. But there is overhead. So we’ll allow the fan to go all the way up to its maximum speed and if that solves the condition without the user having to do anything. – Leo del Castillo, Microsoft”

From the sounds of it, you'd have to really TRY to harm your console, in which case, it's user error. You can't blame MS for everything, not user stupidity.
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wonder how aggressive the throttling is, thats the big question.
are they sacrificing potential performance by keeping the fan quite, therefore prematurely throttling?
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