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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

I been trying to get dimensions of the 780 CU II for weeks .... so far no dice other than what ya find on newegg for the air cooled which ya can see in the pics hangs over a bit. Need dimensions of PCB to confirm. If ya add a 2nd, I think you OK with the cards right under the other but if ya have a 3 slot spacing board like the M6F (one clear slot between), it hits the slanty part of the bracket.

You can see my system layout in post # 1000 with all parts in place. The only thing stopping me from hanging a res in that spot is the bottom of the 5.25 bays ... it basically cuts my planned 250/270 in half. So I thought I would just stack two 150s and let the that bottom structural member stick out between the two but not far enough as to hit the tube / fitting connecting the two.

I have asked cupla times in this thread about the feasibility of such an idea but no feedback as yet. I thought for example the EK 150 res has a center port on top and turning the "2nd story one" up side down the two would line up. However, EK manual says that port should ONLY be used as a fill..... maybe a leak issue ? take a look at the pic in post # 1000 .... meybe between the two of us we'll find an answer.

I'm actually getting ready to take apart my 780 and reapply the heatsink with new thermal paste because it seems to be shifting, which is apparently common with these cards. It needs to be tightened down, I guess, but I'm going to take it apart to apply new paste since the paste is probably crap now that it's been shifting like that for a while. I could measure the PCB then and see exactly how much shorter the card will be once the factory cooling is off (I assume the EK water block for this card doesn't add any length?). I'm hoping it will help with the random crashes I've occasionally had lately. I don't get why this card crashes above 1140-ish overclock when the temps never get above 60-70 degrees.

In your drawing, is the mounting of the res's indicative of where they would really be mounted if they were mounted down the center of the bracket? Or are they mounted deeper into the 5.25/3.5" bay area? They look like they're mounted further in (not using the bracket). And if they were mounted on the bracket they wouldn't hit anything (except for the cards, potentially), right? If you wanted to do the slit between two res design, couldn't you just run the tube from the top of the lower res back behind where the cables are routed and up around to the top of the upper res? Going top to top. Another idea is to use one small tube res and one small 5.25 bay mounted res. I've seen that done before.

Is there any reason not to mount a res on the back panel of the case next to the expansion slots, below the rear case fan? Isn' that a designated res mounting spot?
post #1042 of 15972
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Originally Posted by ADragg View Post

Is there any reason not to mount a res on the back panel of the case next to the expansion slots, below the rear case fan? Isn' that a designated res mounting spot?

The only reason not to mount a res there is that you have to remove it if you ever want to change your GPUs
But you're right in that it is a dedicated space for one
post #1043 of 15972
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Originally Posted by ADragg View Post

I'm actually getting ready to take apart my 780 and reapply the heatsink with new thermal paste because it seems to be shifting, which is apparently common with these cards. It needs to be tightened down, I guess, but I'm going to take it apart to apply new paste since the paste is probably crap now that it's been shifting like that for a while. I could measure the PCB then and see exactly how much shorter the card will be once the factory cooling is off (I assume the EK water block for this card doesn't add any length?). I'm hoping it will help with the random crashes I've occasionally had lately. I don't get why this card crashes above 1140-ish overclock when the temps never get above 60-70 degrees.

In your drawing, is the mounting of the res's indicative of where they would really be mounted if they were mounted down the center of the bracket? Or are they mounted deeper into the 5.25/3.5" bay area? They look like they're mounted further in (not using the bracket). And if they were mounted on the bracket they wouldn't hit anything (except for the cards, potentially), right? If you wanted to do the slit between two res design, couldn't you just run the tube from the top of the lower res back behind where the cables are routed and up around to the top of the upper res? Going top to top. Another idea is to use one small tube res and one small 5.25 bay mounted res. I've seen that done before.

Is there any reason not to mount a res on the back panel of the case next to the expansion slots, below the rear case fan? Isn't that a designated res mounting spot?

In my drawing, the assumption is that you are doing SLI and therefore the bracket is gone. Here .... the proverbial picture is worth .... 1024 bytes



Note that the Bitspower fittings are 19mm in diameter (say 20) so all it really gets ya is another 20mm usinga 60mm diamater res

But now here we have it ..... the latest official 780 Ti installation with reservoir ... man that card is a work of art ! I can't show pics out in the open or I'll get in trouble w/ nVidia .
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

That's the new 780 Ti with the a special release 66mm reservoir (excellent at preventing corrosion in ya loops I understand).... it was all I could get my hands on ..... picked it up at factory outlet this afternoon... smile.gif

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Actually that's an old GT430 or something that I keep around for testing with a cardboard mock up of the Asus DCII 770 PCB held on by rubber bands ..... the 770 DCII reportedly has same PCB as the 780s.

Tye lack of solid dimensions is very frustrating ..... teh GFC+X carsd are bad enuff but the Photon for example is listed as 170 x 75 x 75 .... now if ya aver looked at the thing....it's a cyclibder mounted on a bracket..... will how could the width of the cyclinder be 75 and the depth of the cylinder + bracket also be 75 ????

Between the tubes..... I'm thinking we talkin 5mm each for the 2 extenders + prolly 10mm for the M x M - 20mm ......+ 2 x 150 = 320mm or about 13.6"

1 x http://www.frozencpu.com/products/image/10363/ex-tub-609.jpg/ex-tub-609/Bitspower_Dual_G14_Male_Male_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C08.html?tl=c101s1354

2 x http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10371/ex-tub-618/Bitspower_G_14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C40.html?tl=c101s1354b145#options

Would be soooooo nice to be able to get an acetal res holder..... where the OD matched the res..... the ID matched the OD of the fittings and thickness matched the length


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..<........................Reservoir.........................>...............^ < - Hold down screw
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/3/13 at 1:44am
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post #1044 of 15972
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[...]
Tye lack of solid dimensions is very frustrating ..... teh GFC+X carsd are bad enuff but the Photon for example is listed as 170 x 75 x 75 .... now if ya aver looked at the thing....it's a cyclibder mounted on a bracket..... will how could the width of the cyclinder be 75 and the depth of the cylinder + bracket also be 75 ????
[...]

Assuming it's the same as my Photon 270 Res/D5 pump combo, which I believe it is, the res (glass and caps) is 73mm round, and the width of the res + the bracket (how far the res would stand off from whatever it's mounted to) is 87mm.

Mine's actually a bit wider than that at the bottom due to the pump, but that's measured at the top where I believe all the Photons are identical.
post #1045 of 15972
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Originally Posted by dsmwookie View Post

What are you guys using for fan controllers?

Having a hard time finding a quality unit that will fit behind the door.

I just ordered this ...

http://www.amazon.com/Lamptron-CW611-Cooling-Controller-Six2510-3pin/dp/B00CMQ4QI2/
http://www.overclock.net/t/1357575/introducing-the-lamptron-cw611-water-cooling-assisted-fan-controller/0_20
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Originally Posted by Spawne32 View Post




Though I may wind up regretting it if only because Lamptron has said the CW611 is only the first / most basic of several watercooling fan controllers they are coming out with before the end of the year.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 11/3/13 at 5:21am
post #1046 of 15972
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

I just ordered this ...

http://www.amazon.com/Lamptron-CW611-Cooling-Controller-Six2510-3pin/dp/B00CMQ4QI2/
http://www.overclock.net/t/1357575/introducing-the-lamptron-cw611-water-cooling-assisted-fan-controller/0_20
Though I may wind up regretting it if only because Lamptron has said the CW611 is only the first / most basic of several watercooling fan controllers they are coming out with before the end of the year.


Send pics when your about to test it seems lovely!
post #1047 of 15972
The EVGA Classified is a great card .... the 14 phase VRM is one of the best on the market. The Asus DCII and the MSI Lightning also have great VRMs and a custom PCB. The Lghtning tops the EVGA Classified in a number of ways


- 19 phase VRM with more power headroom thanks in part to DrMOS 4
- LED indication of relative power levels
- Three BIOSs

In Guru3D's testing the Lightning OC'd a bit better than the Classy

Lightning gets the Core Clock up to 1178 MHz
Classified gets the Core Clock up 1133
Asus DCII comes in the middle w/ 1143,

But....the main consideration here is the Lightning is 11.6" long ... the Classified is 11.0 w/ WB ...... if you have been following the last few posts, both are problematic in the "fit" department, hence our interest in the Asus DCII.

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Assuming it's the same as my Photon 270 Res/D5 pump combo, which I believe it is, the res (glass and caps) is 73mm round, and the width of the res + the bracket (how far the res would stand off from whatever it's mounted to) is 87mm.

Mine's actually a bit wider than that at the bottom due to the pump, but that's measured at the top where I believe all the Photons are identical.

Thanks.... 87 sure isn't 75 smile.gif

That would put it about 17mm into the GFX cards

I'm starting to seriously think about mounting it externally on the back of the case smile.gif

A for the Lamptron, you'll prolly have an "uh oh" moment when ya realize, the Phanteks lever locks on the 5-1/4 bays won't let ya screw the thing in. No worries ... seueeze together to take off, screw it in and then snap back on.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/3/13 at 9:13am
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I didn't realize the Lightning and Classified were longer. I thought the DC II was the biggest 780 around. That's good, hopefully I can make it work with the res on the bracket since I'm only using a single card for right now. Then when I add a second 780 down the road, I can see what Jack ended up doing and others as well, and see what the best option is for SLI configs (since they interfere with the bracket). I have no problem grinding and hacking that bracket up to make something work, though. If it's almost fitting with two cards and can be fixed by hollowing out a little more room in the bracket, I'll do that. Repaint it black if I have to. I can make it look pretty clean but even a hack job would be hidden by the res anyway.
post #1049 of 15972
I think I have it figured out ...... no "hacking" required.

Reservvoirs.pdf 175k .pdf file

With that hopefully out of the way, the next thing I wanna tackle is some lighting. I have done UV and Cathode before, never LED.

I was really just prepping an order for the Water Blocks.

1. CPU LED - I have used up 5 of my 6 LED connectors in the Enthoo and was gonna use No. 6 for the CPU block LED (3mm).

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1805/ele-15/3mm_Red_LED.html?tl=g6c455s117

But I can't seem to find any wires w/ connectors matching those on the Enthoo. Closest I came was this .....

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15113/ele-1045/Tailed_Amber_3mm_LED_w_2-Pin_Mobo_Header_Connector_LED-3T-A.html?tl=g6c455s1602

Suggestions ?

2. LED strips - My thought was to take two strips and run them vertically either side of the case window.....not on the door, that's a wire hassle but on the case frame either side. My problem (yet again) is the product literature offers no dimensions.....I "think this stiff is 10mm wide but Id really like it better w/ the black tape.

http://lighthouseleds.com/warm-soft-white-plcc2-3528-12v-led-strip.html

Looked great at $11.99 for 5meters.... but ships from China smile.gif
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/3/13 at 9:36pm
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post #1050 of 15972
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I think I have it figured out ...... no "hacking" required.

Reservvoirs.pdf 175k .pdf file

With that hopefully out of the way, the next thing I wanna tackle is some lighting. I have done UV and Cathode before, never LED.

I was really just prepping an order for the Water Blocks.

1. CPU LED - I have used up 5 of my 6 LED connectors in the Enthoo and was gonna use No. 6 for the CPU block LED (3mm).

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1805/ele-15/3mm_Red_LED.html?tl=g6c455s117

But I can't seem to find any wires w/ connectors matching those on the Enthoo. Closest I came was this .....

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15113/ele-1045/Tailed_Amber_3mm_LED_w_2-Pin_Mobo_Header_Connector_LED-3T-A.html?tl=g6c455s1602

Suggestions ?

2. LED strips - My thought was to take two strips and run them vertically either side of the case window.....not on the door, that's a wire hassle but on the case frame either side. My problem (yet again) is the product literature offers no dimensions.....I "think this stiff is 10mm wide but Id really like it better w/ the black tape.

http://lighthouseleds.com/warm-soft-white-plcc2-3528-12v-led-strip.html

Looked great at $11.99 for 5meters.... but ships from China smile.gif

3528 strips are normally 8mm wide and 5050 strips are on average 10mm wide.

I always use 5050 strips in mine.
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