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Here is my build,first waterloop for me works great very happy with the case also! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Nice job! thumb.gif
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[quote name="OutlawII" url="/t/1418637/phanteks-enthoo-primo-owners-club/1060_20#post_21125107"]Here is my build,first waterloop for me works great very happy with the case also![SPOILER=Warning: Spoiler!][SPOILER=Warning: Spoiler!][/SPOILER] [IMG ALT=""]http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1730986/width/350/height/700[/IMG][IMG ALT=""]http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1730988/width/350/height/700[/IMG][/SPOILER][/quote]Nice job! :thumb:
Thanks much appreciated!

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Alphacool gives you exactly the right number of screws you need. The shorter ones are for 25mm fans mounted directly to the rad, and the longer ones are for going through the fans and the case into the rad. Already mounted mine no problems.

That said, my monsta came with copper screws and my xt45 came with black screws. I've already bought more screws for the top fans on the monsta which is going in the bottom as I do like the look of the black better, even if the copper is a nice touch.

UT60 came with Black, XT45 came with copper. I'll trade ya the blacks for the coppers smile.gif

I am glad it somehow worked for you (are you perhaps using fan grilles ?) ..... but a half dozen threads here on OCN, my own measurements and even the Alphacool web site say different. Alphacool's site says the longer ones are for when using fan grilles and such. But the Enthoo doesn't have anything 5mm thick...the plate with the mounting slots is about 0.5mm. Here's one of the half dozen threads I found looking for screws, 4 of them were on OCN.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1413568/problem-with-screws/

The two different screws are 5 mm difference in length. If the 30mm works in direct contact fan to rad, then you need a 5mm thick something in the middle .... I have nothing that thick in the Enthoo so danged if I ain't curious what you got and I don't smile.gif. I did consider adding grilles (may have to for the side ones if my rubber bands give out) but didn't wanna spend $50 when cheap screws would work.

I still can't figure how ya did it though smile.gif . I can't make the math work. Caliper Measurements:

Distance Between Rad Outside Surface and Screw Protector = 4mm (might be 5 hard to measure as threading makes metal protrude inside)

-Top Rad Push
Fan Thickness - 26mm (Screws not affected by anti-vibration pads on one side on Phanteks Fans as they countersunk)
Thickness of metal where mounting slots are = 0.5mm (estimated - didn't wanna take apart again to measure)
Total = 26.5mm ...... So the 30mm screws went 3.5mm into the 4mm space before the screw protector which jives with what I saw during assembly.

-Top Rad Pull
Fan Thickness - 26mm (Screws not affected by anti-vibration pads on one side)
Total = 26.0mm ...... So the 30mm screws will go 4mm into the 4mm space and just touch the screw protector.

If I used the 35mm screws in either case, tightening them would leave me with 8.5 - 9.0 mm of screw left and the screw protector only provides 4 maybe 5

-Bottom Rad Push
Fan Thickness - 27mm (Screws now affected by pads on both sides)
Thickness of metal where mounting slots are = < 0.5mm (estimated, didn't disassemble again)
Thickness of Washer I need to keep screw heads from going thru slt holes = 1mm
Thickness of Screw Head as not countersunk due to washer = 2mm
Total = 30.5mm ...... So here, the 30mm screws don't work, too short ..... however the 35 were too long, so had to go back out and buy another set of 1mm washers.
With two washers, I got to 31.5, leaving me with 3.5mm of screw in the 4mm screw protector space.

-Bottom Rad Pull
Same as Top Rad Pull
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With all due respect, if you have a really hot VRM section or your pushing your memory sometimes it will overall serve you better to have to top rad exhaust. I know that its counter productive to your delta but sometimes it can mean a lot. When all the fans are set as intake sometimes there cannot be a proper air exchange to benefit the whole system.

I assume you are referring to localized air eddies as opposed to strictly volume or throughput. This is a point often gone unconsidered so glad you brought up.

From a volume standpoint, Air In = Air Out ..... if not your case would implode / explode smile.gif

With one 480 blowing in and one blowing out, the effectiveness of your top rad is obviously reduced as the air exhaust from that bottom rad will greatly reduce the efficiency of the top rad having a very significant impact on your cooling potential. OTOH, with 8 fans blowing down and 8 blowing up, against each other, the various current eddies that from may result in "dead spots" . So having top rad fans blowing out as you suggest means a pretty much even air flow front to back so every place should get some circulation. Still even that flow might not be enough if front / rear fans steal away your current. Some solutions.....

1. Antec "Spot Cool" has done nice things for me in past in this respect.
2. I have also adds fans behind drive cages tho these work best for cooling between 2 cards in SLI
2. Add MoBo MOFSET and SRM water blocks.
3. M6F

I haven't heard of any RAM cooling issues at least not with DDR3 and normal "outside the lab bench" usages.

While we on the subject, off cooling, I have been thinking of a way to force air oiu and theu the back side of a MoBo maybe using on of Prolimatech;s 15mm thick Vortex Fans
http://www.prolimatech.com/en/products/detail.asp?id=1906&page=1
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/5/13 at 4:00pm
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Who has mounted a 360 or 480 in the bottom? What mods were needed - did you just shave off the side panel at the bottom? I just now noticed that mine may not fit...

Edit: according to this, it should fit... Guess I will find out later this week.

Edited by bond32 - 11/5/13 at 3:10pm
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I HAVE NOT tested this get, but what I have done is taken the stock air cooler off my Asus GTX 780 and taken some measurements with the res bracket in place. What I saw was that with the stock cooler off and only the PCB in place, there's 3/8" between the back of the PCB of the card and the res bracket (mind you, this is with the plastic cover off the res bracket, so this IS utilizing the "indention" or "cut-out" in the bracket that makes extra room for long GPU's).

I think I know answer but for clarification, you are measuring the Asus DCII and not the reference version which is shorter, correct ? Oh.... had to come backl to ask the obvious question.....if it is the 780 DCII just what are the dimensions ?
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It won't work with SLI in most cases, without some modification at least.

Well Yes and No, I think..... Two cards with no slot in between should work according to Phanteks..... if ya have 3 slot spacing, then no .... that's why I haven't delved into it
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-Does the EK water block for the Asus GTX 780 DC II add any extra length to the PCB, or can the length of the PCB represent the length of the overall card with the water block installed?

The WBs are smaller in length than the card.
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-Does a normal tube res mount centered on the bracket? The pre drilled holes are centered on the bracket and most res mounting clips would mount the res centered, right?

If yours is different, you could drill more holes
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-I know there are res's with a greater diameter than 60mm, but is there such thing as a tube res that is a little more narrow, like a 55mm diameter res?

Yes phobya Balance, Alphacool Coolplex, FrozenQ
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13184/ex-res-283/Alphacool_Cape_Corp_Coolplex_Pro_25_LT_-_250mm.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10950/ex-res-217/FrozenQ_PC_Mods_Liquid_Fusion_V_Series_2nd_Generation_Reservoir_400mm_-_UV_Cathode_-_UV_Green_Helix.html?tl=g30c97s165
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17012/ex-res-424/FrozenQ_PC_Mods_UV_Meteor_Light_Limited_Edition_Reservoir_-_UV_Warp_Drive.html?tl=g30c97s165
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-I notice on the bracket there are rows of 3 holes. There are two outer holes that are spaced by about 71mm and one more hole centered between them. Is that standard spacing for the mounting hardware (clips) for tube res's? Or do they normally on have one hole and just use the center hole of the bracket for mounting? I assume they're standard holes on the bracket because they wouldn't have given us that many holes on the bracket if they were only there to screw on the little plastic cover plate.

Sure wud be nice if manufacturers gave dimensions huh ? smile.gif

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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post


A reference 780 (ex: EVGA 03G-P4-2781-KR) is 10.5" and the PCB runs the length of the card.
Full coverage waterblocks that fit it, like the XSPC Razor GTX Titan WB, are 267mm (10.5") long.

Now why isn't it that easy to get info on a DCII version smile.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1439278/asus-gtx-780-dimensions
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Who has mounted a 360 or 480 in the bottom? What mods were needed - did you just shave off the side panel at the bottom? I just now noticed that mine may not fit...

]Who has mounted a 360 or 480 in the bottom? What mods were needed - did you just shave off the side panel at the bottom? I just now noticed that mine may not fit...

Jesse put a 480 Monsta in....see the video .... they also noted that some 140s fit and some don't ....145mm fits, 146 doesn't

http://themodzoo.com/forum/index.php?/page/articles.html/_/reviews/cases/phanteks-enthoo-primo-full-tower-review-r67
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i0x-wXaBrI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIpoC65bpX4
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/5/13 at 6:28pm
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Who has mounted a 360 or 480 in the bottom? What mods were needed - did you just shave off the side panel at the bottom? I just now noticed that mine may not fit...

Edit: according to this, it should fit... Guess I will find out later this week.

My 480mm Monsta fit just right. You just have to use some twists and turns to get it in there with a full set of fans.

By the way, where are the extra PWM boards for sale? I think I want to go all PWM for my fans in the future.
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My 480mm Monsta fit just right. You just have to use some twists and turns to get it in there with a full set of fans.

By the way, where are the extra PWM boards for sale? I think I want to go all PWM for my fans in the future.

IIRC, Brian (@ Phanteks) said they'd be available around January.



BTW, SilentPCReview.com reviewed the Phanteks Fan on the PH-TC14-PE and it topped their chartes.... As far as I can tell, it's the same fan as in the Enthoo with different mounting.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1345-page4.html

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1345-page7.html
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The Phanteks PH-F140HP/TS is the clear winner in every respect. It edged out the new Noctuas every step of the way, delivering the best overall results of any fan we've tested thus far. To top it off, it had cleanest, smoothest sound of all the new fans in this roundup. If we had to start from scratch, this might be our new reference model.
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Now why isn't it that easy to get info on a DCII version smile.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1439278/asus-gtx-780-dimensions
25 views no answers frown.gif
[...]

I googled https://www.google.com/search?q=ASUS+GTX+780+DCII+dimensions

First result was "ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II Review And Gallery At Ocaholic" to which there was a link to this ...

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I've been following this thread since it opened and I feel like this has been mentioned but I can't find it.

How much room is behind the door of the Enthoo? More importantly, do you think the Lamptron FC5 v2 would fit with the door closed?

Also, has anyone figured out whether or not it's possible to mod that door so it hinges on the right?
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I've been following this thread since it opened and I feel like this has been mentioned but I can't find it.

How much room is behind the door of the Enthoo? More importantly, do you think the Lamptron FC5 v2 would fit with the door closed?

Also, has anyone figured out whether or not it's possible to mod that door so it hinges on the right?
There is only about 5mm between 5.25 grills and inside of door.
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