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Not wuite sure what you are trying to say but I'm guessing from the picture that you are concerned about a hypothetical restriction of of the bottom air intake in the Enthoo Primo?

There are several factors to consider in such a situation. The most important which from the looks of it is also the case in you instance, is to never place a case with bottom intake directly on a carpet floor. The primo is raised up a bit, so it's less of an issue than other cases, but usually a carpet restricts flow quite a bit so it's always a good idea to have some sort of hard surface to place it on. Next issue would be something along the lines of the fan filters, I am not sure how restrictive the ones in use on the Primo is but filters always restrict flow so if you have issues with flow it's a good idea to remove tehm and see if it helps. The third one would be if the case requires more air than what is readily available underneath the case, which would be the case if you have lots of high rpm fans and the like. If that is the reason for bad performance then raising the case further up should help with that like you eperienced.

Now with all that in mind I do feel that the Primo has some lack of clearance in the bottom to be honest, so it may very well be a real issue as you mentioned.

Absolutely agree. While there is a lot of open mesh around the bottom, Phanteks did close off the front and both sides and only left like 1/8" ? of clearance below the whole skirt for airflow. The back is open at least.

That constricted bottom and then the addition of the rest of the case panels contributed to my increase in temps since it constricted the easy access to open air for the rads. Solution was to turn fans up 5-10% biggrin.gif

I actually have wanted to beef up the bottom with some metal strips, that would give a bit more clearance and strength.
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Absolutely agree. While there is a lot of open mesh around the bottom, Phanteks did close off the front and both sides and only left like 1/8" ? of clearance below the whole skirt for airflow. The back is open at least.

That constricted bottom and then the addition of the rest of the case panels contributed to my increase in temps since it constricted the easy access to open air for the rads. Solution was to turn fans up 5-10% biggrin.gif

I actually have wanted to beef up the bottom with some metal strips, that would give a bit more clearance and strength.

Simplest solution would of course just be to swap out the feet with something a bit taller. Unfortunately due to the design of the Primo that means I’m have to get creative and cut some thick rubber to size while at my current case I made some nice ones in wood. Anyways, I'll likely have to address this issue as well, although I will actually be blowing air out of the bottom and not sucking in there due to some unfortunate circumstances (Eloops really REALLY hat being set directly up against a grill, or in this case the bottom panel).
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Even though I took your word without any grain of salt, I thought I'd go through the Enthoo Evolv matx case review video by Hardware Canucks and the offset for the 120mm fan mounts up top are far from the motherboard:

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Thanks Rainmaker91!!!

Have the case, and are watercooling it with ek gear. I have a coolstream PE 240 up top, and it is pretty close with the 8 pin CPU power(searching high and low for a way to make it lower in profile), you can forget p/p if you got anything other than very low profile ram but mb heatsinks should not be a biggie.

The predator will take up additional space with the res/pump thous limiting your options with additional rads, and I had to give up the panel holder thingy at the back towards the window as the pe rad is too wide.
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Absolutely agree. While there is a lot of open mesh around the bottom, Phanteks did close off the front and both sides and only left like 1/8" ? of clearance below the whole skirt for airflow. The back is open at least.

That constricted bottom and then the addition of the rest of the case panels contributed to my increase in temps since it constricted the easy access to open air for the rads. Solution was to turn fans up 5-10% biggrin.gif

I actually have wanted to beef up the bottom with some metal strips, that would give a bit more clearance and strength.

Simplest solution would of course just be to swap out the feet with something a bit taller. Unfortunately due to the design of the Primo that means I’m have to get creative and cut some thick rubber to size while at my current case I made some nice ones in wood. Anyways, I'll likely have to address this issue as well, although I will actually be blowing air out of the bottom and not sucking in there due to some unfortunate circumstances (Eloops really REALLY hat being set directly up against a grill, or in this case the bottom panel).

You could do this mod, and then intake from bottom.
post #11565 of 19146
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You could do this mod, and then intake from bottom.

True, and I still might do that. Big difference is that stuff like laser cutting, CNC work and waterjet is way overpriced here so I would end up doing it all by hand (unless I can find a kind soul that does these things as a hobby in my close vicinity). So I'll have to think it over really.
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Just picked up the Luxe yesterday. Quick question about my fan layout and the PWM, where to wire, etc.

mobo / hsf: asus p8z68-v pro / nh-d14

Right now, I've got all the case fans, and one of the two heatsink fans connected to the 4-pin CPU_fan header. The second heatsink fan is connected to the cpu_fan_opt header. In my last case, both HSF were connected to both cpu_fan headers, the rest were on the other various headers.

I'm not 100% sure if the PWM cable can even reach the other 4-pin (chan_fan1) on my mobo, as it's near the IO. Should I just reconnect both heatsink fans back to cpu_fan & cpu_fan_opt, then connect the PWM to chan_fan1 (if it can reach), or just one of the other 3-pin headers. From what I understand anyway, is that the other 4-pin isn't really PWM controllable.

edit - oh yeah, I do have three Gelid Wing 14s lying around. Should I use two of them to replace the front 200? Then the third up top?
Edited by capitalj - 10/14/15 at 5:58am
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post #11567 of 19146
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Just picked up the Luxe yesterday. Quick question about my fan layout and the PWM, where to wire, etc.

mobo / hsf: asus p8z68-v pro / nh-d14

Right now, I've got all the case fans, and one of the two heatsink fans connected to the 4-pin CPU_fan header. The second heatsink fan is connected to the cpu_fan_opt header. In my last case, both HSF were connected to both cpu_fan headers, the rest were on the other various headers.

I'm not 100% sure if the PWM cable can even reach the other 4-pin (chan_fan1) on my mobo, as it's near the IO. Should I just reconnect both heatsink fans back to cpu_fan & cpu_fan_opt, then connect the PWM to chan_fan1 (if it can reach), or just one of the other 3-pin headers. From what I understand anyway, is that the other 4-pin isn't really PWM controllable.

edit - oh yeah, I do have three Gelid Wing 14s lying around. Should I use two of them to replace the front 200? Then the third up top?

Here's what your mobo manual says



So CPU_FAN and CPU_FAN_OPT are both acceptable as they have the PWM signal whereas CHA_FAN1 is 4 pin but is actually voltage controlled.
post #11568 of 19146
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Just picked up the Luxe yesterday. Quick question about my fan layout and the PWM, where to wire, etc.

mobo / hsf: asus p8z68-v pro / nh-d14

Right now, I've got all the case fans, and one of the two heatsink fans connected to the 4-pin CPU_fan header. The second heatsink fan is connected to the cpu_fan_opt header. In my last case, both HSF were connected to both cpu_fan headers, the rest were on the other various headers.

I'm not 100% sure if the PWM cable can even reach the other 4-pin (chan_fan1) on my mobo, as it's near the IO. Should I just reconnect both heatsink fans back to cpu_fan & cpu_fan_opt, then connect the PWM to chan_fan1 (if it can reach), or just one of the other 3-pin headers. From what I understand anyway, is that the other 4-pin isn't really PWM controllable.

edit - oh yeah, I do have three Gelid Wing 14s lying around. Should I use two of them to replace the front 200? Then the third up top?
What xxdarkreap3rxx said.

You do realize the Phanteks PWM hub is a PWM controlled 3-pin variable voltage fan hub, not a PWM hub and the case fans are 3-pin variable voltage fans?.

The Phanteks PWM controlled fan hub uses PWM signal to vary the 12V power supplied to it to vary the voltage going to the fans plugged into it.
post #11569 of 19146
Guys i bought an Enthoo Pro.As i checked some posts its a PWM controlled 3-pin hub.I got an ASUS X99-A and on manual it says all fan headers are supposed to support PWM and Voltage controlled.The hub is gonna work fine if i connect it on a normal fan 4-pin header as long as i change it as PWM on BIOS right?
post #11570 of 19146
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Guys i bought an Enthoo Pro.As i checked some posts its a PWM controlled 3-pin hub.I got an ASUS X99-A and on manual it says all fan headers are supposed to support PWM and Voltage controlled.The hub is gonna work fine if i connect it on a normal fan 4-pin header as long as i change it as PWM on BIOS right?

Yes, it will work fine.
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